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tom275

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Post #1
I decided to refurb my own wheels as the cost of professional jobs are about 25% the value of the car.

So far I have stripped one wheel back to metal with the use of some Nitromors, which was a bit disappointing, and a wire brush attachment for a drill. Its taken bloody ages! Can anyone recommend any good ways to get the paint off?

Or somewhere in the south west that is reasonably priced.
Posted 13th Apr 2012 at 15:18
simonjames

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Post #2
Give them to the pro's and save the hassle Smile

Only quick easy way to strip the paint back is to either get them acid dipped or fine grit blasted

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Posted 13th Apr 2012 at 15:27
tom275

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Thing is, on a set of cyclones that are worth £150 I don't see the point in spending £250 getting them refurbed
Posted 13th Apr 2012 at 15:31
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if you can get them to Gloucester robgti6 can sort you for about £100.

p.s cyclones aren't worth £150 if they need a refurb Wink

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Posted 13th Apr 2012 at 15:42
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Yeah, £200-250 for grit blasting and powder coating is the only way Yes

I've tried doing them myself in the past and you spend a lot more on paint, tools and time than you think. Then you use that resin stuff to fill the big scratches, then it looks s**t, then it's too late because you can't get them powder coated once you've used the resin.

Everyone I've ever known who's refurbed their own wheels has ended up with (eventually) disappointing results, when lacquer starts peeling off after a few months.

Honestly, buy a set it better condition and keep your current ones as spares Yes

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Posted 13th Apr 2012 at 15:59
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can get a set shotblasted and powder coated for £80 local to me so best shop round Thumbs up
Posted 13th Apr 2012 at 16:10
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roland rat wrote:
can get a set shotblasted and powder coated for £80 local to me so best shop round Thumbs up


How little money will people around you work for?! Even if they rushed it they'd earn more in McDonalds.

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Posted 13th Apr 2012 at 16:11
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owain wrote:
roland rat wrote:
can get a set shotblasted and powder coated for £80 local to me so best shop round Thumbs up


How little money will people around you work for?! Even if they rushed it they'd earn more in McDonalds.


Guys got a massive place and does them in batches of 15 sets and does a mail order service so low overheads Wink
Posted 13th Apr 2012 at 16:13
owain

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Even so, that's ridiculous. He got a website? I assume he can't afford one?

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Posted 13th Apr 2012 at 16:14
welshpug!

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Rob's contact in Gloucester does them at £100 a set, blasted and coated, minor repairs carried out too.

Its not their main line of work so sometimes takes a few days till they have the right colour going through.

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Posted 13th Apr 2012 at 16:23
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£100 seems cheap?

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Posted 13th Apr 2012 at 16:42
owain

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And who the hell is Rob?!

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Posted 13th Apr 2012 at 16:45
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My powdercoaters in Birmingham does a set for £120, including kerb repairs, filling gouges etc etc. Turns them round (pardon the pun) in 3 days.

I don't know a Rob either.....

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Posted 13th Apr 2012 at 16:48
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I can't find the posts anymore

These had good reviews on here http://www.ashtonpowdercoating.co.uk/

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Posted 13th Apr 2012 at 16:50
owain

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smegal wrote:
I can't find the posts anymore

These had good reviews on here http://www.ashtonpowdercoating.co.uk/


But do you know Rob?

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Posted 13th Apr 2012 at 16:52
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owain wrote:
And who the hell is Rob?!


I believe Welshpug is referring to rob gti6.
Posted 13th Apr 2012 at 16:53
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owain wrote:
smegal wrote:
I can't find the posts anymore

These had good reviews on here http://www.ashtonpowdercoating.co.uk/


But do you know Rob?


No

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Posted 13th Apr 2012 at 16:59
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stu wrote:
owain wrote:
And who the hell is Rob?!


I believe Welshpug is referring to rob gti6.


And do you know him?

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Posted 13th Apr 2012 at 17:08
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I have met Welshpug, and work with a Rob, but never met the above mentioned Rob......
Posted 13th Apr 2012 at 17:12
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That's him, aka Norman Cyclone.

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Posted 13th Apr 2012 at 17:31
owain

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welshpug! wrote:
That's him, aka Norman Cyclone.


Please say that's his real name.

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Posted 13th Apr 2012 at 17:37
bongo dts

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Post #22
Nitromors should get through the paint no problems unless they have changed the formula recently or you are not using it correctly. I found a thin coat left for 10 mins to get it going followed by another thicker coat left for 10 mins would be enough to get 95% of the paint off and then just do the rest by hand with some wire wool.

I've done quite a few sets but not for a couple of years tbh and always had good, long lasting results. Prep is the key though and I probably take/took 10 times longer actually prepping the surfaces and finishing that the actual painting as it doesn't matter how good you can be with a spray gun/can, you will get poor results if the surfaces haven't been prepped well enough. It's not difficult but very time consuming.

Cyclone are quite a good shape to work with though so a wallpaper stripper may work well but personally always used a drill and wire brush but does get very messey!!
Posted 13th Apr 2012 at 18:14
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Post #23
Mine that i refurbed 3 or 4 years ago have only really recently been affected by the odd stone chip.
Its not a cheap thing to do if you want to do it properly, i borrowed a compressor and decent spray gun and still spent an awful lot on thinners, etch primer, filler primer, top coat and 2k lacquer, not to mention literally days of sat sanding and prepping etc.

Nitro mors wasnt very quick on mine either, and its annoying when you get it in your eye or on your skin. LOL

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Posted 13th Apr 2012 at 18:41
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i got nitromors in my eye and didn't wash it out, merely wiped my eye. agony the day after. luckily i got a glass eye in the right colour off ebay so all was not lost

but it does take a load of effort to get them properly good. i would recommend just shotblasting them and powdercoating them as they are if they aren't too badly damaged. rainman on here does/used to do them. very good quality and better finish IMO than you'd get with rattle cans and your own prep work

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Posted 13th Apr 2012 at 22:11
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like others have said doing it yourself is a pain in the arse and take far more time than you realise and unless you're an expert your always a bit disappointed with the result ive done a few sets now and certainly wouldnt strip any again myself.
If i was going torefurb them my self id get them blasted/dipped etc for the sake of £40/50 its saves hours of scraping/sanding etc. then paint myself but i dont think id bother anymore.

Ive justbought a 2nd set of cyclones off ebay for £82. got em blasted for £50 and they're at the powdercoaters now being coated for £100 im happy enough with that prob could got bit cheaper maybe but saves my fingers and my time.

so £150 for a refurb in colour of my choice i don't thinks bad

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