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Anyone got a phase 1/2 map sensor in or near Edinburgh as my car is having major stuttering problems and I'm supposed to be driving to Pitlochry tomorrow, doesn't look like it now though 
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 notoriouslor
Regular  Location: Tranent Registered: 02 May 2011 Posts: 234 Status: Offline |
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 Posted 29th Mar 2012 at 18:37
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #2
Stuttering at what sort of rpm?________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone  |
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Posted 29th Mar 2012 at 22:57
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notoriouslor
Regular Location: Tranent Registered: 02 May 2011 Posts: 234 Status: Offline |
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The revs aren't really going up and down as such but it does it right through the range, the car sounds like a diesel and has no power whatsoever, just reading through the other stutter posts I'm guessing that its either the icv or the map sensor, changed the icv today and its still the same so I'm going to try the map next |
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Posted 29th Mar 2012 at 23:41
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notoriouslor
Regular Location: Tranent Registered: 02 May 2011 Posts: 234 Status: Offline |
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Hopefully get it sorted as well otherwise I'm in my mums toyota auris, bad times |
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Posted 29th Mar 2012 at 23:43
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro  Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
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Coil pack 100 %It's probably that your car is running on 3 cylinders. If you pull the clips that connect the injectors one by one replacing them each time I bet removing a particular one will cause no change to the running of the engine. Because you will be stopping fuel from going in the cylinder where in isn't much point, as without a cool there's no spark/ ignition. Which ever one which makes no difference to the car running will correspond to the coil on the same cylinder ________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 30th Mar 2012 at 00:42
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
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Have to agree, does sound like a coil pack.  They are around £75 each from Pug so make sure it is this before you go buying. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 30th Mar 2012 at 07:23
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mattgti6phase2
Seasoned Pro  Location: inside my 6 abusing the tarmac!! Registered: 16 Jul 2010 Posts: 2,371 Status: Offline |
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If it is a coil you should smell fuel very strongly tbh also if you have a cat the unburnt fuel will ruin it. If you suspect the map sensor then un plug it and if it makes no difference to it running rough then it's that. Both are p**s easy to diagnose/fix ________________________________________ Team Nile 6 Team: 40.2 MPG  5 x a 306 owner! currently abusing type r's in a town near you ™  I truely live for the 306 ® Build date: 29th October 1997 Wednesday's car midweek madness  |
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Posted 30th Mar 2012 at 09:56
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
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If its well down on power though i doubt its the map________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 30th Mar 2012 at 10:40
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
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Sounding like a diesel you say? Deffo sounds like its running on 3. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 30th Mar 2012 at 11:09
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mattgti6phase2
Seasoned Pro Location: inside my 6 abusing the tarmac!! Registered: 16 Jul 2010 Posts: 2,371 Status: Offline |
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mattgti6phase2 wrote: If you suspect the map sensor then un plug it and if it makes no difference to it running rough then it's that. IF  didnt say it was although the car is still down on power if the MAP sensor is f**ked. Unplug your own and drive the car  ________________________________________ Team Nile 6Team: 40.2 MPG 5 x a 306 owner! currently abusing type r's in a town near you ™ I truely live for the 306 ® Build date: 29th October 1997 Wednesday's car midweek madness |
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Posted 30th Mar 2012 at 11:37
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swiftyboi006
Seasoned Pro  Location: Maidenhead Registered: 12 Apr 2010 Posts: 2,110 Status: Offline |
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Running on 3 cylinders sounds like a diesel, mine kept doing it as i lost an injector clip so it kept jumping and running on 3 cylinders. It is most def this  ________________________________________ cherry p1.....SOLD (regreting this)blaze p2.....why did i buy this SOLD Black p3 |
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Posted 30th Mar 2012 at 14:07
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #12
If you ever doubt the MAP sensor, the easy way to test it to get the car running at idle then unplug the MAP. It should stall. If it doesn't then it is faulty.However in this particular case I vote coil pack. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 30th Mar 2012 at 14:11
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mattgti6phase2
Seasoned Pro Location: inside my 6 abusing the tarmac!! Registered: 16 Jul 2010 Posts: 2,371 Status: Offline |
Post #13
I also vote coil pack was just chucking the map issue out there. As stan said it'll run like a dog then stall. I have had to replace 2 coil packs in 6 months  lucky I have a friend who has a mass supply. Bloody thing sounded likes scooby on 3 cylinders as said above though if you have a cat it'll ruin it for sure.________________________________________ Team Nile 6Team: 40.2 MPG 5 x a 306 owner! currently abusing type r's in a town near you ™ I truely live for the 306 ® Build date: 29th October 1997 Wednesday's car midweek madness |
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Posted 30th Mar 2012 at 15:51
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
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Tbh wen my coil went I thought it sounded like a mini mustang Lmao.________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 30th Mar 2012 at 18:43
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notoriouslor
Regular Location: Tranent Registered: 02 May 2011 Posts: 234 Status: Offline |
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To be honest it does sound alright, bit like a boxer lol, the thing that made me think it was the map was I took it of and cleaned it, the car then worked fine for about 60-70 miles. Then it done it again, so I cleaned it again and low and behold it worked again, now no amount of cleaning is doing anything now, I'm in pitlochry till sunday now so nothing much will be happening till the start of the week |
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Posted 30th Mar 2012 at 22:55
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notoriouslor
Regular Location: Tranent Registered: 02 May 2011 Posts: 234 Status: Offline |
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Okay, got the coilpacks today, went to fit them and some joker has obviously had them out before but has almost rounded out the bolts holding them in. I've got half of them out but can't get the others out and it's started p**sing down with hail again so I just gave up. Any suggestions to get the bolts out? |
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Posted 4th Apr 2012 at 17:44
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bigbadbowen
Seasoned Pro  Location: Winchester Registered: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 13,752 Status: Offline |
Post #17
Next size up Torx bit and hammer |
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Posted 4th Apr 2012 at 17:55
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notoriouslor
Regular Location: Tranent Registered: 02 May 2011 Posts: 234 Status: Offline |
Post #18
I'll give that a try once the weather gets a bit better, should I reset the ecu after changing the coilpacks? |
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Posted 4th Apr 2012 at 18:19
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
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notoriouslor wrote: I'll give that a try once the weather gets a bit better, should I reset the ecu after changing the coilpacks? No need. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 4th Apr 2012 at 18:37
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swiftyboi006
Seasoned Pro Location: Maidenhead Registered: 12 Apr 2010 Posts: 2,110 Status: Offline |
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Let us know how it is when changed ________________________________________ cherry p1.....SOLD (regreting this)blaze p2.....why did i buy this SOLD Black p3 |
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Posted 4th Apr 2012 at 19:26
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notoriouslor
Regular Location: Tranent Registered: 02 May 2011 Posts: 234 Status: Offline |
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And the problem is still the same, i swear I'm goint to set fire to this piece of crap  |
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Posted 4th Apr 2012 at 20:06
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #22
You've fitted 4 new coils and the problem still persists?Did you remove the plugs and see if there was one that was badly fouled?  ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 4th Apr 2012 at 20:12
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notoriouslor
Regular Location: Tranent Registered: 02 May 2011 Posts: 234 Status: Offline |
Post #23
They all looked fine to be honest |
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Posted 4th Apr 2012 at 20:20
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
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Ok, next thing to try is to get the car running and disconnect one coil at a time to see if it makes a difference to the running of the engine. Each time you disconnect one it should make a noticeable difference. If you unplug one and there is no difference at all, that will be the cylinder with the problem. Even though the plugs looked good it doesn't mean that one isn't faulty. Were the coil packs new or used? ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 4th Apr 2012 at 20:25
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,864 Status: Offline |
Post #25
Really you should have done that test prior to getting any coils  As Stan says pull the cables out for the injectors so you know where you can focus your attention. ________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 4th Apr 2012 at 20:38
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