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daveyboy

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Post #1
For anyone interested, I have done a few of these now and for those who are running harnesses but haven't taken the plunge and gone for a cage with harness bars a rear mounted one welded to the tops of the arches provides the ideal location for fixing the shoulder straps to.

Here are a few pics:









To fix the eylets for the lap strap you can utilse a threaded hole in the sill towards the B-pillar. For the inner ones these mountings were welded to the tunnel:





Prices start from 140, depending on how much prep you have done, ie removing trim, carpets, rear arch liners etc. and level of spec (for instance threaded eylets for the bar like the ones pictured add 30 and if you need front welded points on the tunnel add 20.)



This takes a little while to do so allow half a day. Especially if you have fully trimmed rear end, painting is not usually part of the service (I just happened to have some white paint kicking around) but I will put on some etch primer to stop it rusting while client organises matching up something suitable.

Cheers for looking.

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Some of my services: (See my for sale threads)
Engine mount/chassis repair
Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION
Harness bars
Posted 18th Jul 2011 at 20:40
owain

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Post #2
Hmm Interesting...

Mine are currently attached to the old seatbelt mounts which means they're at far too steep an angle.

I assume you could do a "while you wait" type thing? Albeit for half a day? Would be quite a drive y'see, but nothing impossible.

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Posted 17th Jul 2011 at 20:51
mabgti

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Post #3
Put me down for one Thumbs up

Fit me in on a sunday?

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Posted 18th Jul 2011 at 00:37
daveyboy

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Post #4
mabgti wrote:
Put me down for one Thumbs up

Fit me in on a sunday?


Sorry Mabz, on holiday all week, back this Sunday coming. How about the following weekend?

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R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.

Some of my services: (See my for sale threads)
Engine mount/chassis repair
Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION
Harness bars
Posted 18th Jul 2011 at 20:38
daveyboy

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Post #5
owain wrote:
Hmm Interesting...

Mine are currently attached to the old seatbelt mounts which means they're at far too steep an angle.

I assume you could do a "while you wait" type thing? Albeit for half a day? Would be quite a drive y'see, but nothing impossible.


Certainly is a 'while u wait' service my old china Smile

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R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.

Some of my services: (See my for sale threads)
Engine mount/chassis repair
Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION
Harness bars
Posted 18th Jul 2011 at 20:40
owain

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Post #6
Nice one sweetcheeks. I'll get you some photos of my current harnesses and attachments (as I can't remember how they attach exactly), see what they'll need Thumbs up

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Posted 18th Jul 2011 at 20:46
bigbadbowen

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Post #7
Shouldn't this bar be higher up dude ??

Posted 18th Jul 2011 at 21:55
owain

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Post #8
bigbadbowen wrote:
Shouldn't this bar be higher up dude ??


I believe 20 degrees from horizontal is FIA approved, I think if they go any higher you lose strength in the mounts.

I think.

But I could be lying.

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Posted 19th Jul 2011 at 02:16
daveyboy

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Post #9
bigbadbowen wrote:
Shouldn't this bar be higher up dude ??



In an ideal world yes, a location that puts the belts at 90 degrees to the holes in the seat would be perfect. However the location pictured is about as high up as you can get a bar mounted on the arches, the material on the insides of the B-pillars is just too thin and therefore weak to weld a bar to. Obviously a cage is the best thing to mount harnesses on, but this is a much better compromise than the floor mounted affair most people have to make do with. Smile

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R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.

Some of my services: (See my for sale threads)
Engine mount/chassis repair
Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION
Harness bars
Posted 19th Jul 2011 at 03:01
braymond

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Post #10
Holy thread reserection

I've only just noticed this, how very dare you post up pics of my inner sanctum without my say so LOL

That said, I might just squeeze a little link to this in my project thread for those with an unhealthy welding obsession.

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Posted 1st Nov 2011 at 14:52
mr west

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Post #11
if only you wasn't so far south

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Posted 1st Nov 2011 at 17:06
mabgti

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Post #12
Price me up one of these and an engine mount weld mate. Fit me in on a sunday?

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Posted 8th Nov 2011 at 14:51
gtomi-6

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Post #13
i thought best place was at shoulder height ??

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Posted 9th Nov 2011 at 10:12
daveyboy

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Post #14
gtomi-6 wrote:
i thought best place was at shoulder height ??


Read the thread Tom, this is covered.

Mabz, what would you need? Eyelets in the bar, front seat belt anchor points etc?

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R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.

Some of my services: (See my for sale threads)
Engine mount/chassis repair
Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION
Harness bars
Posted 9th Nov 2011 at 10:17
mabgti

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Post #15
Eyelets in the barYes

Front anchor pointsYes

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Posted 9th Nov 2011 at 10:33
daveyboy

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Post #16
mabgti wrote:
Eyelets in the barYes

Front anchor pointsYes



Ok' I'll get back to you later on today.

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R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.

Some of my services: (See my for sale threads)
Engine mount/chassis repair
Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION
Harness bars
Posted 9th Nov 2011 at 10:34
daveyboy

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Post #17
Harness bar with anchor points and eyelets plus the chassis repair will set you back £270, thats £30 off for having both done at the same time. I'll have to clear it with the boss as to what day I can do it as he's keeping me pretty busy at weekends for the moment but should be able to fit it in soon.

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R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.

Some of my services: (See my for sale threads)
Engine mount/chassis repair
Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION
Harness bars
Posted 9th Nov 2011 at 18:28
mabgti

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Post #18
hmm.. all dependant on when you can fit me in...

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Posted 9th Nov 2011 at 20:27
daveyboy

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Post #19
Should be able to do next Sunday with a bit of luck.

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R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.

Some of my services: (See my for sale threads)
Engine mount/chassis repair
Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION
Harness bars
Posted 9th Nov 2011 at 22:09
daveyboy

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Post #20
No problem for next Sunday Mabz, give me a ring on 07775 674 031 next week to confirm times etc.

Thanks.

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R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.

Some of my services: (See my for sale threads)
Engine mount/chassis repair
Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION
Harness bars
Posted 9th Nov 2011 at 23:43
eddy_gti6

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Post #21
Sorry to bring up an old thread but are you still doing these? i am just after the bar and end plates tho. i will be able to fit this myself.
Any chance in a price for the bar and end plates posted please if possible

Thanks

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Posted 27th Mar 2012 at 16:31
eskiiboi

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Post #22
If you are still doing these can I have a price for a harness bar with the threads, and front welds on the tunnel for lap straps

Also would you weld in two rails either side to mount my bucket seats on? And another threaded plate in the front for a 5/6 point harness?

Cheers, Jake
Posted 27th Mar 2012 at 17:09
daveyboy

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Post #23
Hi guys, will get back to you both as soon as I can, cheers.

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R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.

Some of my services: (See my for sale threads)
Engine mount/chassis repair
Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION
Harness bars
Posted 28th Mar 2012 at 15:27
eddy_gti6

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Post #24
Thanks daveyboy Thumbs up

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Posted 28th Mar 2012 at 22:39
eskiiboi

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Post #25
Any news on these Daveyboy? Cheers, Jake
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