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 jimmyhackers
Seasoned Pro  Location: birmingham Registered: 14 Jun 2011 Posts: 1,099 Status: Offline |
Post #1
coilovers in my expereince are the dogs bo***cks when compared to any other suspension typewhy does the majority in here love standard type suspension so much? ________________________________________ the world is changed by people in sheds |
 Posted 14th Jun 2011 at 23:22
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rallyeash
Seasoned Pro  Location: Devizes Registered: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,424 Status: Offline |
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well there alright, aslong as there setup propery and with matched springs. athough for road use theres no point, a set of bilsteins and eibachs are better. ive got coilovers on my 205________________________________________ 230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys Project thread here309 3dr K20 Type R |
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Posted 14th Jun 2011 at 23:25
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ashc
Junior User  Location: Manchester Registered: 07 Jul 2010 Posts: 73 Status: Offline |
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Eibachs here________________________________________ Blaze 6!>>> BLAZE FOR THE WIN!!! <<< |
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Posted 14th Jun 2011 at 23:34
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro  Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
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 quote: in my expereince Yes, well, the less said there the better...  ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 14th Jun 2011 at 23:41
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cwspellowe
Seasoned Pro  Location: Calderbank Registered: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 6,496 Status: Offline |
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FS phillip you should coilovers on your car don't you know anything?Too busy trying to convince yourself your shiny bits actually make a difference  ________________________________________ Bye bye Sundance Kid |
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Posted 14th Jun 2011 at 23:42
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #6
because to get a half decent set you need to spend £7-800 at the very least, and if you want the car to handle properly then factor in £2-300 on some torsion bars and another £150 on an ARB.which is why most stick to mildly uprated fast road stuff that uses standard diameter springs. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 14th Jun 2011 at 23:43
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owain
Seasoned Pro  Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
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Exactly, decent shocks & springs are better than shit coilovers, so why ruin your suspension just so you can say "I've got coilovers" to someone who doesn't give a shit?Troooooooooooollll ________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 15th Jun 2011 at 00:17
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cwspellowe
Seasoned Pro Location: Calderbank Registered: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 6,496 Status: Offline |
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Posted 15th Jun 2011 at 01:00
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musclebeach
Seasoned Pro  Location: Yorkshire Registered: 13 Aug 2006 Posts: 7,763 Status: Offline |
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Do new Bilsteins and Eibach's give you a sporty ride like modern day cars without shaking the shit out of you like my Koni's do? ________________________________________ VW Golf GT TDI 115, 100k nooooooooooooooooooooo! |
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Posted 15th Jun 2011 at 01:24
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #10
my konis didn't shake the shit out of my zx, must have had them set to ROCK ARD________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 15th Jun 2011 at 01:46
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lewisdmz
Senior User Location: plymouth Registered: 25 Jul 2009 Posts: 504 Status: Offline |
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Coilwhaat?oh yeah those, gmax do a wicked kit on ebay, £150 and slamm her right down, 'handles like a go kart'. |
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Posted 15th Jun 2011 at 01:46
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #12
technically speaking, standard factory arrangement on these cars is a coilover  ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 15th Jun 2011 at 02:02
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adam b
Seasoned Pro  Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
Post #13
I've got coilovers on my Volvo. I've had coilovers on my Impreza and my Rallye.They are only good if they are designed well and use decent parts. The eibach and Bilstein B8 setup on the 306 is very, very good. ________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 15th Jun 2011 at 02:17
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jimmyhackers
Seasoned Pro Location: birmingham Registered: 14 Jun 2011 Posts: 1,099 Status: Offline |
Post #14
thanks for the replies. as i guessed the people who like/have suspension. like the smoother ride. sod that, ratling my ass off is fun.they handle just aswell. plus with the added bonus of height adjustability i can get her sitting just right. the other bonus is the price difference. 180+ for coilovers 350+ for suspension. each to their own. however id say any new type of suspension over 16 year old stuff is gonna be a vast improvement. ________________________________________ the world is changed by people in sheds |
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Posted 16th Jun 2011 at 03:17
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ballardpaul
Seasoned Pro  Location: Croydon Registered: 22 Jul 2008 Posts: 4,135 Status: Offline |
Post #15
Not top sure if I'll ever get coilovers after owning my car. Soo bumpy and just a shit ride. ________________________________________ Phase 2 Blaze GTi 6 (Standard) SoldPhase 3 Supercharged China GTi 6 (249.8 BHP) Sold Phase 3 Supercharged Diablo GTi 6 (443 BHP)Sold Nissan 350Z (300 BHP) |
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Posted 16th Jun 2011 at 03:22
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ian7675
Techno Viking  Location: Gloucestershire Registered: 12 Oct 2007 Posts: 6,068 Status: Offline |
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jimmyhackers wrote: however id say any new type of suspension over 16 year old stuff is gonna be a vast improvement. Really? ________________________________________ Less than 24 hours to go! |
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Posted 16th Jun 2011 at 03:23
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #17
disagree, old o.e dampers on my 309 were more comfy and gave more grip than the gmax shite it had on when i bought it________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 16th Jun 2011 at 03:28
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sixygti2
Seasoned Pro  Location: Tunbridge Wells Registered: 21 Apr 2007 Posts: 2,778 Status: Offline |
Post #18
Is it coilovers that make the car bounce like a kangaroo? Seen a few cars bouncing all the way down a perfectly smooth, flat motorway!  I thought it was funny! ________________________________________ Still watching you... |
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Posted 16th Jun 2011 at 03:40
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ballardpaul
Seasoned Pro Location: Croydon Registered: 22 Jul 2008 Posts: 4,135 Status: Offline |
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Mine bounces down B roads, absolute nightmare to drive it fast down one. ________________________________________ Phase 2 Blaze GTi 6 (Standard) SoldPhase 3 Supercharged China GTi 6 (249.8 BHP) Sold Phase 3 Supercharged Diablo GTi 6 (443 BHP)Sold Nissan 350Z (300 BHP) |
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Posted 16th Jun 2011 at 03:43
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #20
jimmyhackers wrote: thanks for the replies. as i guessed the people who like/have suspension. like the smoother ride. sod that, ratling my ass off is fun.they handle just aswell. plus with the added bonus of height adjustability i can get her sitting just right. 10 to 1 yours handles worse than mine even though it's lower. Same odds on mine giving more feedback. And I'll bet mine rides smoother too to boot. Rattly ride ≠ good handling. Suspension travel is not just for comfort  ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 16th Jun 2011 at 03:49
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jimmyhackers
Seasoned Pro Location: birmingham Registered: 14 Jun 2011 Posts: 1,099 Status: Offline |
Post #21
could i not buy buy 10 sets of coilovers for the price your paid for your suspension?  i wonder if i spent the same ammount of money on good coilovers theyd be as good if not better? then i think wouldnt a grand plus be better spent elsewhere? ________________________________________ the world is changed by people in sheds |
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Posted 16th Jun 2011 at 04:22
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #22
I didn't pay much for my suspension, I built it And personally, I'd rather buy the Peugeot OEM dampers than those shitty Raceland-type crap off ebay, or even a decent set of matched springs + dampers, because whilst they're fine for just dropping the car and telling everyone in the pub you have coilovers, the internals are pretty damned terrible. Here's one of those quality coilovers after less than 6 months use I took apart for someone...  Mmm, lovely. And yes, he thought his car handled great with them wound up and the car sat on the floor, until he switched across to something half decent after and realised the car handled just as well and the ride was 10x better... The reason you won't find many people talking about those cheap crap coilovers on here is because most owners bought the car for the fantastic balance it offers between ride and handling, why ruin it for the sake of dropping it to the floor? May as well buy a Golf and start running around on stretched tyres with 20* of camber  Most owners either stick with the pretty good standard stuff, or upgrade to something decent. ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 16th Jun 2011 at 04:36
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jimmyhackers
Seasoned Pro Location: birmingham Registered: 14 Jun 2011 Posts: 1,099 Status: Offline |
Post #23
fair play on the making themi dont plan going to the floor, i intend the sump to retain its original shape in this car, unike my 1.4 ive learnt some of my lessons with that car. 180 quid for ebay jobbies, fit them myself, twiddle with the torsion bars for hours, car handled better than my gti6 even on crap non matching budget tyres. and the ride comfort was fine little bit hard but nothing i dont mind. i know the 6 engine is heavier and new standard suspension would be great. i just like coilovers and how they work. and no i dont tell people in the pub. less time drinking means more time driving ________________________________________ the world is changed by people in sheds |
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Posted 16th Jun 2011 at 04:44
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #24
^Old dampers vs new dampers, not surprising.Plus the lower car will give more grip through less roll (although not actually handling as such, it does fool most people...). ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 16th Jun 2011 at 04:53
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #25
sixygti2 wrote: Is it coilovers that make the car bounce like a kangaroo? Seen a few cars bouncing all the way down a perfectly smooth, flat motorway! I thought it was funny! sometimes but not always, that's just being too low with shit damping. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 16th Jun 2011 at 13:18
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