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Coming down the motorway, my car developed quite a loud tapping that sounded like an old sewing lacking it kept wanting to cut out but it held together till I got to my destination,

I put it down to the oil probably been spent
However turned it over to do some checks and it literally p*ssed oil everywhere prettymuch poored out like a fountain!
From the front of the block somewhere,
I've checked the radiator for oil but nothing that I can see,..
Any one any ideas :/

Here's some pix



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Posted 17th May 2011 at 15:11
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bennn

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Is the oil filter done up tight, looks like thats where its spraying out of!

You wont have done it any favours driving it like that!

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Posted 17th May 2011 at 15:19
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Another vote for oil filter and five years taken off the life of your engine Yes

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Posted 17th May 2011 at 15:45
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I've got it in bits it looks like the seal around the oil filter has given out! :-/

Will the engine be f*cked shortly then?

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Posted 17th May 2011 at 15:49
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Dads work had a volkswagen that did that (common fault with that particular engine apparently)

They'd driven it 20 miles and it went again fine with fresh oil and a filter...

So with any luck yours may be ok...

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Posted 17th May 2011 at 15:52
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If you're lucky it'll be just wear & tear damage, just make sure you've got a flushed it out properly before you drive it again.

Personally I'd get a new filter on, fill it with cheap oil, pump it through, drain it out then refill with decent oil, just to make sure you get out any crap that's in there.

Might be unnecessary, but better that than drive around with crap being scraped around the oilways.

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Posted 17th May 2011 at 15:58
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I'm on it now lol most of the oil is half way down the street now :-/ I'm off to Peugeot

And pugjim is coming to lend me a hand! Big grin
I only have a ikea tool box to do it all with lol

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Posted 17th May 2011 at 16:08
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MCH_GTi6

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gnrlee wrote:
I'm on it now lol most of the oil is half way down the street now :-/ I'm off to Peugeot

And pugjim is coming to lend me a hand! Big grin
I only have a ikea tool box to do it all with lol


the fact there was still so much oil in it to come out when you stopped should of helped keep it a bit safer... I'd of been very worried if there was none when driving.

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Posted 17th May 2011 at 16:16
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gnrlee wrote:
I'm on it now lol most of the oil is half way down the street now :-/ I'm off to Peugeot


I had a very similar thing happen on a mk1 golf. Changed the oil filter and the seal blew out immediately when I started it. Oil fooking eveywhere!

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Posted 17th May 2011 at 16:24
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Posted 17th May 2011 at 18:48
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Well,....

It's spun a big end bearing and that's what the noise was
It had also blown the seal out from around the filter which didn't seem all that tight so weather that's contributed to it or not I don't know but well, joys of motoring

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gnrlee wrote:
Coming down the motorway, my car developed quite a loud tapping that sounded like an old sewing lacking it


Should have stopped right there!!


Did you not see the low oil pressure light?....

Engine rebuild time...

Edit; if its spun a bearing then you'll need a replacement rod, possibly a crank if youre unlucky.

take it the sump has been removed if you know its spun a bearing? if not it might just be knocking.

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Posted 17th May 2011 at 19:13
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Oooh, nasty. Almost certainly it'd be the other way round - filter comes loose, oil pressure drops, bearing spins.

Nasty and unfortunate mate, I feel for you.

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Posted 17th May 2011 at 19:12
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Ahh thats proper shit news mate,should just buy my china and swap lumps over,simples! Thumbs up
Posted 17th May 2011 at 19:19
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I'd be kicking the arse of whoever serviced it, new lump or break it
Posted 17th May 2011 at 19:20
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Sump not removed yet just the very loud bottom end knocking. Possibly spun a shell but will find out when engine is out. Just trying to make room for it on my drive. Got to jiggle round 2 transit vans, a 306 and a 207 LOL
Posted 17th May 2011 at 19:36
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Mine spun a bearing 140 mile after rebuilding all the top end.

Be wary of buying bottom ends tho. I picked one up off Birk which turned out to be from a over heated engine, the pistons had started to melt.

Its meant that Ive had to do a full bottom end rebuild with a fresh crank and rod!

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Posted 17th May 2011 at 20:02
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Unlucky mate, what were we saying about these cars being money pits at the begining of the month LOL

Good luck sorting it Thumbs up

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Posted 18th May 2011 at 02:07
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I've seen exactly this before. A piece of the destroyed bearing was fired through the oil filter which punched the seal out.

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Posted 18th May 2011 at 02:45
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Big end failure no 4 cylinder (timing belt end) crank and rod are scrap Sad
Posted 18th May 2011 at 18:34
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Nasty. 3 cylinders ftw!

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Posted 18th May 2011 at 18:50
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Same bearing went on my RFY lump in my ZX though it didn't scrap the crank, I stopped soon enough!

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Posted 18th May 2011 at 19:25
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Mine was flywheel end. Same, rod and crank no good.

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Posted 18th May 2011 at 21:25
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pugjim wrote:
Big end failure no 4 cylinder (timing belt end) crank and rod are scrap Sad


Been there, done that Bored

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Posted 18th May 2011 at 22:38
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well if it was going to go then,...
to be honest the noise started out like a bag or something stuck under the car then turned to an angry wasp/something vibrating which then suddely changed into an old sewing machine sound it never got any worse, but she did manage to limp to the intended destination, before giving up, Love

Picture from the other day LOL

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Posted 19th May 2011 at 20:27
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