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| Author | Subject: 300+ ftlbs what gearbox? |
 zxturbo400
Regular  Location: rugeley Registered: 21 Dec 2010 Posts: 104 Status: Offline |
Post #1
As above, i have a zx volcane td box here( 306 hdi basically) and the choice of a 306 dturbo box, il also have the choice of a 6 speed box.engine will be a gt2871rs, 300-350bhp and rev to 7600 if this matters? Pug1off told me id need a £3200 quiffe box  id rather try something cheaper thoughMany thanks! |
 Posted 22nd Dec 2010 at 00:51
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brownboy
Seasoned Pro Location: congleton Registered: 13 Oct 2008 Posts: 1,371 Status: Offline |
Post #2
one of these http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=132015&page=last |
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Posted 22nd Dec 2010 at 01:02
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zxturbo400
Regular Location: rugeley Registered: 21 Dec 2010 Posts: 104 Status: Offline |
Post #3
that looks awesome, but i may aswell use the 6 box until it goes bang, then get one  |
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Posted 22nd Dec 2010 at 01:06
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brownboy
Seasoned Pro Location: congleton Registered: 13 Oct 2008 Posts: 1,371 Status: Offline |
Post #4
it realy does sound like your cutting alot of corners why dont you save up and do it properly first time and that includes insurance with your declared mods |
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Posted 22nd Dec 2010 at 01:08
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zxturbo400
Regular Location: rugeley Registered: 21 Dec 2010 Posts: 104 Status: Offline |
Post #5
because i Dont waste money, the 6 box may take 300ftlbs it may not, there might be a cheaper option out there.Dont really want to spend £1300 on a box just after spending £5k on mapping, ecu and a xu10, Plus since i said i was 19 there the posts come about the insurance, theres THOUSANDS of lads who vary from 17 to 25 who dont declare mods. Killjoys are Fail |
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Posted 22nd Dec 2010 at 01:11
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #6
ML5  or ML6 if it'll fit. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 22nd Dec 2010 at 01:12
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brownboy
Seasoned Pro Location: congleton Registered: 13 Oct 2008 Posts: 1,371 Status: Offline |
Post #7
i would get your flame suit on then |
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Posted 22nd Dec 2010 at 01:13
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zxturbo400
Regular Location: rugeley Registered: 21 Dec 2010 Posts: 104 Status: Offline |
Post #8
flame suit on for what and cheers welshpug, do you have any more info on ml5 and ml6 boxes? |
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Posted 22nd Dec 2010 at 01:31
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smegal
Seasoned Pro  Location: Leeds Registered: 26 Dec 2005 Posts: 5,940 Status: Offline |
Post #9
So you won't be declaring your mods?You fucking prick! I declared my mods and my SC is fully declared. If you can't afford to mod the car then don't full stop. ________________________________________ Ex SC-6Now in a Megane R26 |
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Posted 22nd Dec 2010 at 02:58
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brownboy
Seasoned Pro Location: congleton Registered: 13 Oct 2008 Posts: 1,371 Status: Offline |
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smegal wrote: So you won't be declaring your mods? You fucking prick! I declared my mods and my SC is fully declared. If you can't afford to mod the car then don't full stop. already had this on his engine thread crazy how someone can spend 4k on a car to drive it around illegally  |
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Posted 22nd Dec 2010 at 03:05
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smegal
Seasoned Pro Location: Leeds Registered: 26 Dec 2005 Posts: 5,940 Status: Offline |
Post #11
To be fair this sounds like the last turbo conversion that never happened so it shouldn't be an issue.________________________________________ Ex SC-6Now in a Megane R26 |
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Posted 22nd Dec 2010 at 03:06
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zxturbo400
Regular Location: rugeley Registered: 21 Dec 2010 Posts: 104 Status: Offline |
Post #12
student loan into a supercharged gti6? lovely bit of debt.Yea might not build it, even though all the other cars ive built have been completed |
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Posted 22nd Dec 2010 at 03:32
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smegal
Seasoned Pro Location: Leeds Registered: 26 Dec 2005 Posts: 5,940 Status: Offline |
Post #13
I hope you do but please go the whole hog and insure it.________________________________________ Ex SC-6Now in a Megane R26 |
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Posted 22nd Dec 2010 at 03:37
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james_geldart
Senior User  Location: Yorkshire Registered: 20 Jul 2005 Posts: 943 Status: Offline |
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smegal wrote: I hope you do but please go the whole hog and insure it. I'm sure he knows that not having insurance (exactly the same as not declaring your modifications) is an offence that can land him in prison/with a crimal record. Only a retard would take that chance.... ________________________________________ Recommends:'mechanical_repairs' - Leicester 'miles' for suspension & Grp N/A goods Baker BM Mounts |
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Posted 22nd Dec 2010 at 03:51
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cwspellowe
Seasoned Pro  Location: Calderbank Registered: 19 Jul 2009 Posts: 6,496 Status: Offline |
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zxturbo400 wrote: student loan into a supercharged gti6? lovely bit of debt. Of course, lovely bit of debt he only has to repay after earning over a certain threshold at a pretty much insignificant repayment rate. Makes a lot of sense to me... ________________________________________ Bye bye Sundance Kid |
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Posted 22nd Dec 2010 at 04:16
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bobdylan_55
Seasoned Pro Location: derby Registered: 28 Mar 2009 Posts: 1,466 Status: Offline |
Post #16
student loan for the win.For info on the ml5t gearbox see my project thread. ________________________________________ 309 GTi6-T |
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Posted 22nd Dec 2010 at 04:19
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miles
Seasoned Pro  Location: Ringwood Registered: 28 Dec 2002 Posts: 3,433 Status: Offline |
Post #17
The ML box fit's and is allot stronger than the BE box, But it's twice as heavy, Needs a cable conversion unless you can fit a master cylinder on the clutch pedal and custom shafts as the inner splines are different, Also is using the 2.0 turbo version then I would add another 2 planet gears like the V6 or a ATB diff dare I say it________________________________________ 306 Rallye Sptint/Race Car, 205 CTI 1.9 8v to name a fewRoad, Track and Race/Rally car preparation to your personal requirements, Full Workshop & Diagnostic Facilities New and Second parts, from Plugs to Turbo's We now also carry out Routine Servicing www.pugracing.com & FB Page, https://www.facebook.com/PugRacing Ebay; http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Pug-Racing-Shop 2012/2013/2014/2019 Class Winners at Gurston Down Speed Hillclimb & Joint overall, Class record too along the way, |
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Posted 22nd Dec 2010 at 05:04
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zxturbo400
Regular Location: rugeley Registered: 21 Dec 2010 Posts: 104 Status: Offline |
Post #18
What is the ML fitted to bud? cable as in shifter or clutch? |
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Posted 22nd Dec 2010 at 05:26
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oecken
Seasoned Pro  Location: Mt Cook, New Zealand Registered: 17 Feb 2009 Posts: 4,751 Status: Offline |
Post #19
as above hes had this on the other threads, and as he said hundres of people do it undeclared, but the reason they do it un declared is because the more people that do it the higher the premiums will be for everyone making it less affordable for other so more people dont declare, its a vicious circle fuelled by c*nts that cant afford to pay, dont do it if you cant afford to. ________________________________________ Ex-Black 6 - Speed has never killed anyone, suddenly becoming stationary... That's what gets you. |
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Posted 22nd Dec 2010 at 15:12
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matt evans
Seasoned Pro  Location: Stourbridge Registered: 16 Sep 2009 Posts: 2,290 Status: Offline |
Post #20
Do not feed the Troll________________________________________ 1999 Astor Grey GTi-6 OEM+ (now gone...)2004 Aegean Blue 206 GTi 180 (also gone...) 2006 Skoda Fabia vRS in Sprint Yellow honestly3k wrote: Do you wrestle for a living matt? You sound like a monster  owain wrote: Nothing involving a 306 can be considered worthwhile. |
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Posted 22nd Dec 2010 at 16:18
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oecken
Seasoned Pro Location: Mt Cook, New Zealand Registered: 17 Feb 2009 Posts: 4,751 Status: Offline |
Post #21
matt evans wrote: Do not feed the Troll well for a troll he sure is asking a lot of specfic questions relating to the same thing  ________________________________________ Ex-Black 6 - Speed has never killed anyone, suddenly becoming stationary... That's what gets you. |
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Posted 22nd Dec 2010 at 16:20
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adam b
Seasoned Pro  Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
Post #22
ML5 is 10kg heavier than a BE3/6 box.You'll need different shafts with a 406/xantia 2L turbo rear engine mount and the speedo will be out with the different tyre size. Also cable shift system will bolt in but you'll lose heat shields and have to cut the exhaust tunnel. You'll also have to figure out how to make the clutch arm move as those boxes usually use hydraulics. Its a bit of a twat basically but can be done. I had one on my V6 engine in my rallye. ________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 22nd Dec 2010 at 16:52
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zxturbo400
Regular Location: rugeley Registered: 21 Dec 2010 Posts: 104 Status: Offline |
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oecken wrote: matt evans wrote: Do not feed the Troll well for a troll he sure is asking a lot of specfic questions relating to the same thing Not a troll lol just intrested in building a turbo xu10 16v, worked on pretty much everything else apart from these adam b wrote: ML5 is 10kg heavier than a BE3/6 box. You'll need different shafts with a 406/xantia 2L turbo rear engine mount and the speedo will be out with the different tyre size. Also cable shift system will bolt in but you'll lose heat shields and have to cut the exhaust tunnel. You'll also have to figure out how to make the clutch arm move as those boxes usually use hydraulics. Its a bit of a twat basically but can be done. I had one on my V6 engine in my rallye. Alot of work then! dont know if its worth it  |
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Posted 22nd Dec 2010 at 17:01
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #24
not that much work tbh, been done before so everythign that needs to be done has been covered before, worth it for knowing it'll take some beating and wont cost you too much.as Miles said, there is a Quaife diff available off the shelf, doubt it'd take much for someone else to make up a plate diff to fit. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 22nd Dec 2010 at 17:38
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pdd144c
Senior User  Location: Southampton Registered: 09 Dec 2005 Posts: 550 Status: Offline |
Post #25
The problem you'll have is the casings cracking, hence why I sold all my turbo bits a few years back...________________________________________ FOR SALE205 Turbo Technics complete and 306 Rallye Race Build breaking. |
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Posted 23rd Dec 2010 at 17:51
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