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 SteviePut
Seasoned Pro  Location: Down south Registered: 20 Oct 2005 Posts: 13,637 Status: Offline |
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Few questions.1: Anyone changed these on theirs? 2: How much of a twat of a job is it? 3: I understand they screw into the rack is this right? 4: can it be done with the rack in place? 5: does the subframe need dropping? Cheers in advance ________________________________________ My old man wrote me a letter from prison once. It said if you don't want to end up in here, stay away from crime, women and drugs. Trouble is, that don't leave you much else to do, does it? |
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darkgti6
Seasoned Pro  Location: Bracknell Registered: 07 Jun 2008 Posts: 1,358 Status: Offline |
Post #2
Interested to know these answers________________________________________ Team Peugeot Sport 308 Gti�Black T'99 Gti - may she rest in peace - written off in a shunt on the A329m |
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Posted 31st Mar 2012 at 12:13
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
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1, kinda, done one on a rack off the car, and it was very easy, the r/h is the same as any 205 309 etc, the left hand is more of a faff due to pas.2, very much 3, yup 4, yup, with special tools 5, no, as above. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 31st Mar 2012 at 12:16
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darkgti6
Seasoned Pro Location: Bracknell Registered: 07 Jun 2008 Posts: 1,358 Status: Offline |
Post #4
What special tools?________________________________________ Team Peugeot Sport 308 Gti�Black T'99 Gti - may she rest in peace - written off in a shunt on the A329m |
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Posted 31st Mar 2012 at 12:19
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calibra306
Seasoned Pro  Location: Gravesend, Kent Registered: 06 Nov 2011 Posts: 1,315 Status: Offline |
Post #5
Done mine yesterday! Dropping the subframe is quite simple really but I have loosened to lower not completely removed! Regarding replacing the arms a special tool is required its like a metal plate with a half circle cut out and a drive square cut in for rachet! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJpuz-gf9pA&feature=youtube_gdata_player I'm sending mine off to get fully reconditioned now it's out! £79.99 ________________________________________ V6 Power!Faster I can go the better! Its not what you drive, its how you drive that wins the race! |
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Posted 31st Mar 2012 at 12:59
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro  Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,894 Status: Offline |
Post #6
I've just bought a xsara rack, would it be a good idea to change these arms before it gets fitted? How much are they? It's only done about 50-60k apparently but if it's easier with the rack off it may aswell be done. ________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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Posted 31st Mar 2012 at 17:53
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
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£15-20 if that.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 31st Mar 2012 at 18:45
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tvrfan007
Seasoned Pro  Location: In the garage Registered: 29 May 2005 Posts: 3,488 Status: Offline |
Post #8
Yes they screw into the rack. I did both last year on my HDI. I didn't loosen the subframe or the rack, and I did the whole lot with mole grips through the access hatches in the subframe.An easier than expected task to be honest. My HDi had done 232K at the time. Replaced one, only for the idiot tracking the car to bend the other one and not tell me. ________________________________________ I'm Si btw Night Blue VW Golf GTD Bianca LBSC Rallye - Track/Road Slag Project Thread Sparkling Silver Mini Cooper D - Super Dooper  - (The other half's wheels) |
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Posted 31st Mar 2012 at 19:45
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #9
bit trickier on the 6 due to the limited steering lock one way.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 31st Mar 2012 at 19:49
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tvrfan007
Seasoned Pro Location: In the garage Registered: 29 May 2005 Posts: 3,488 Status: Offline |
Post #10
Yes but I found that the access hatches were more than sufficient. I researched the job on here first and found numerous photos illustrating the ability to do it in-situ with little extra preparatory work.  Just takes some time to tighten it because of the funny washer. ________________________________________ I'm Si btwNight Blue VW Golf GTD Bianca LBSC Rallye - Track/Road Slag Project Thread Sparkling Silver Mini Cooper D - Super Dooper - (The other half's wheels) |
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Posted 31st Mar 2012 at 19:59
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darkgti6
Seasoned Pro Location: Bracknell Registered: 07 Jun 2008 Posts: 1,358 Status: Offline |
Post #11
tvrfan007 wrote: Yes but I found that the access hatches were more than sufficient. I researched the job on here first and found numerous photos illustrating the ability to do it in-situ with little extra preparatory work. Just takes some time to tighten it because of the funny washer. Can you post the links up please because I can't find any info on this ________________________________________ Team Peugeot Sport 308 Gti�Black T'99 Gti - may she rest in peace - written off in a shunt on the A329m |
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Posted 31st Mar 2012 at 20:04
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darkgti6
Seasoned Pro Location: Bracknell Registered: 07 Jun 2008 Posts: 1,358 Status: Offline |
Post #12
I had a look at mine today. Where can you get this special tool from what's it called? Tbh its looking like rack off to get to them ________________________________________ Team Peugeot Sport 308 Gti�Black T'99 Gti - may she rest in peace - written off in a shunt on the A329m |
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Posted 31st Mar 2012 at 20:06
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,894 Status: Offline |
Post #13
How did he bend it?________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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Posted 31st Mar 2012 at 20:08
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calibra306
Seasoned Pro Location: Gravesend, Kent Registered: 06 Nov 2011 Posts: 1,315 Status: Offline |
Post #14
f**k knows how ya would do it on a 6?Specially with the tools and force needed to do it! For £80 getting the whole rack stripped and rebuilt new parts where required and leak tested I'm going down the less stress road! ________________________________________ V6 Power!Faster I can go the better! Its not what you drive, its how you drive that wins the race! |
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Posted 31st Mar 2012 at 20:09
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,894 Status: Offline |
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How do you know there not going to use the cheapest s**t possible for the rack parts though?________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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Posted 31st Mar 2012 at 20:11
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calibra306
Seasoned Pro Location: Gravesend, Kent Registered: 06 Nov 2011 Posts: 1,315 Status: Offline |
Post #16
Umm there is that I guess. They however don't stock the GTi rack so they won't have the parts required other then the original parts other then standard bits general to rebuild with ie seals etc.I feel comfortable it will be of good quality as seen a few they have done and seem a good company to go for! Acs power steering. ________________________________________ V6 Power!Faster I can go the better! Its not what you drive, its how you drive that wins the race! |
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Posted 31st Mar 2012 at 20:23
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #17
other than the ram there's nothing special about the gti6 rack.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 31st Mar 2012 at 20:31
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calibra306
Seasoned Pro Location: Gravesend, Kent Registered: 06 Nov 2011 Posts: 1,315 Status: Offline |
Post #18
welshpug! wrote: Yeah in not so many words! Every recon place say they don't touch the ram anyway.other than the ram there's nothing special about the gti6 rack. ________________________________________ V6 Power!Faster I can go the better! Its not what you drive, its how you drive that wins the race! |
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Posted 31st Mar 2012 at 20:44
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darkgti6
Seasoned Pro Location: Bracknell Registered: 07 Jun 2008 Posts: 1,358 Status: Offline |
Post #19
Ok this is what we are dealing with, earlier today I got under the car to check this out. The only way i could think of to remove this is to use mole grips or water pump pliers to grasp the external portion of the track rod inner ball joint. When I turned this it seemed to also rotate the shaft inside the steering rack itself before meeting some resistance at which point i decided to halt proceedings before i damaged something maybe.Whats everyones take on this? I would imagine the only way to get this off is to do exactly that but wouldnt this damage something inside the rack if i applied some serious pressure? Anyways heres a pic of the new track rod.....   Ive been looking online and have found tools to take track rods of which slide over the track rod itself and couple to another part that fits round a square section on the inner ball joint - but ive not seen anything like this ^^^ So is it just a case of water pump pliers and properly going for it??? ________________________________________ Team Peugeot Sport 308 Gti�Black T'99 Gti - may she rest in peace - written off in a shunt on the A329m |
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Posted 31st Mar 2012 at 22:26
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Brand-New-STEERING-Track-Rod-End-Tool-MUST-HAVE-25-35mm-/180756052065?pt=UK_Hand_Tools_Equipment&hash=item2a15e67861 dunno if that will fit though, there are larger ones. though I'd just go at it same as you have done already, or leave it to a garage. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 31st Mar 2012 at 22:33
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darkgti6
Seasoned Pro Location: Bracknell Registered: 07 Jun 2008 Posts: 1,358 Status: Offline |
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welshpug! wrote: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Brand-New-STEERING-Track-Rod-End-Tool-MUST-HAVE-25-35mm-/180756052065?pt=UK_Hand_Tools_Equipment&hash=item2a15e67861 dunno if that will fit though, there are larger ones. though I'd just go at it same as you have done already, or leave it to a garage. Yes ive been looking at similar, i would think the tool would be like a half section thing that would 'cup' the inner balljoint where those protrusions are then have another tool like the one above to slide over and 'mate' with the other and have 3/8'' drive at the other end for a breaker bar or something. All I did was eye it up today really - I cracked on with fitting a nissens rad instead in the end today but i might have another pop at this tomorrow. Just hope applying turning force doesnt break something inside the rack  but it seems thats the only way.________________________________________ Team Peugeot Sport 308 Gti�Black T'99 Gti - may she rest in peace - written off in a shunt on the A329m |
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Posted 31st Mar 2012 at 22:40
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darkgti6
Seasoned Pro Location: Bracknell Registered: 07 Jun 2008 Posts: 1,358 Status: Offline |
Post #22
Right gonna attack this at the weekend so what's the verdict? Get some big mole grips and have a punt? This pressure won't break anything inside the fax?________________________________________ Team Peugeot Sport 308 Gti�Black T'99 Gti - may she rest in peace - written off in a shunt on the A329m |
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Posted 2nd Apr 2012 at 12:49
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,894 Status: Offline |
Post #23
Fax  ________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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Posted 2nd Apr 2012 at 13:59
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darkgti6
Seasoned Pro Location: Bracknell Registered: 07 Jun 2008 Posts: 1,358 Status: Offline |
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Damn predictive, I mean 'rack' ________________________________________ Team Peugeot Sport 308 Gti�Black T'99 Gti - may she rest in peace - written off in a shunt on the A329m |
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Posted 2nd Apr 2012 at 14:40
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darkgti6
Seasoned Pro Location: Bracknell Registered: 07 Jun 2008 Posts: 1,358 Status: Offline |
Post #25
yeah well thanks for all the advice________________________________________ Team Peugeot Sport 308 Gti�Black T'99 Gti - may she rest in peace - written off in a shunt on the A329m |
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Posted 2nd Apr 2012 at 20:22
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