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mabgti

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Post #1
Just wondering if people could post on here the clutch they're using, part number, price and where they got it from please..

GSF seem to do valeo, ecp do sachs iirc?

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Posted 5th Oct 2010 at 06:07
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I would be interested in the same from the high boost boys

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Posted 5th Oct 2010 at 06:20
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This is what ive just put in mine, had it made up by CG-Motorsport in leeds, new kevlartek plate which can withstand upto 900degreesF and some uprated springs, see how it holds out aye.

Cost me £70

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Posted 5th Oct 2010 at 14:55
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Post #4
nice.. hows it drive? whats their lead time?

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Posted 5th Oct 2010 at 15:24
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Ive not driven it yet, but will be later today hopefully, just trying to figure out wtf is going on with my fans 1st before i drive it.

Lead time is spot on, i rang them on friday and they said they could have it done the day after, but i let them do it over a few days when i was ready to pick it up.

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Posted 5th Oct 2010 at 16:20
mabgti

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Post #6
dude for £70 its well priced... got a contact number?

what pressure plate you using?

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Posted 5th Oct 2010 at 22:09
davedgti6

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I'm using Helix paddle with Sachs pressure plate, not tried it yet though, although got engine back in tonight so hopefully wont be long Cool

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Posted 6th Oct 2010 at 03:33
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Those Kevlar ones drive quite nicely, same as I have in mine, little bit grabbier on initial takeup but that's all, probably a bit more realistic at a 350*C max temperature though, they start to glaze over after that.
You need a very good flywheel and pressure plate surface though to get them to bed in properly too - they're not abrasive enough to clean up poor machining marks, etc.

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Posted 6th Oct 2010 at 03:43
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Post #9
I'm getting mine either from BPB:

Clutch Kit
Part Number : 622160800
Cost : £76.50 + vat
Model:
306 2.0i 16v
Year range:
06/94-
Location:
Extra info:
Kit (RepSet)
Plate Dia: (mm)
220
Pull type clutch

Or luke said he could get a Valeo one for a similar price straight from Pug.

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Posted 6th Oct 2010 at 03:43
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Allot of pattern parts come with a Valeo Clucth inside, I know a few LUK one's I've had do and all fine so far,
Other ones are 4 padel Helix and Organic Helix covers and plates

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Posted 6th Oct 2010 at 05:48
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Post #11
c.g.motorsport advised me to go paddle clutch even at low boost, so dont know how your gonna get away with kevlartec at high boost.. dont think they;re rated to the same torque...

miles i need to speak to you bout my box off nick...

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Posted 6th Oct 2010 at 06:14
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Post #12
phillipm wrote:
Those Kevlar ones drive quite nicely, same as I have in mine, little bit grabbier on initial takeup but that's all, probably a bit more realistic at a 350*C max temperature though, they start to glaze over after that.
You need a very good flywheel and pressure plate surface though to get them to bed in properly too - they're not abrasive enough to clean up poor machining marks, etc.



I concur, I have a Kevlar clutch in my Rover Turbo and it drives beautifully. No judder etc. I fitted it against a brand new TTV flywheel (they make Rich W's iirc).

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Posted 6th Oct 2010 at 13:04
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phillipm wrote:
Those Kevlar ones drive quite nicely, same as I have in mine, little bit grabbier on initial takeup but that's all, probably a bit more realistic at a 350*C max temperature though, they start to glaze over after that.
You need a very good flywheel and pressure plate surface though to get them to bed in properly too - they're not abrasive enough to clean up poor machining marks, etc.



We will see how it holds out in the next few weeks then, im sure it will be better than standard, but by how much im not sure.

mabgti wrote:
dude for £70 its well priced... got a contact number?

what pressure plate you using?


Looks like you have already got in contact with them, they did say i should use a paddle one, but i wanted to try and retain some driveability, so will see how this holds out.

They have done it at a special price, as they havent made any 306 ones like this before, so im the test donkey LOL

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Posted 6th Oct 2010 at 15:37
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ive uprated to the ml5t box from a 406 v6, and then fitted a larger clutch plate from them. Takes a lot of work but apparently they can stand another 100nm torque through the entire box, not just the clutch.

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Posted 6th Oct 2010 at 15:47
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birk wrote:
phillipm wrote:
Those Kevlar ones drive quite nicely, same as I have in mine, little bit grabbier on initial takeup but that's all, probably a bit more realistic at a 350*C max temperature though, they start to glaze over after that.
You need a very good flywheel and pressure plate surface though to get them to bed in properly too - they're not abrasive enough to clean up poor machining marks, etc.



We will see how it holds out in the next few weeks then, im sure it will be better than standard, but by how much im not sure.

mabgti wrote:
dude for £70 its well priced... got a contact number?

what pressure plate you using?


Looks like you have already got in contact with them, they did say i should use a paddle one, but i wanted to try and retain some driveability, so will see how this holds out.

They have done it at a special price, as they havent made any 306 ones like this before, so im the test donkey LOL


Can i be the other donkey on low boost... have a word dan Big grin

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Posted 6th Oct 2010 at 16:07
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Just give them a ring and see what they offer, mine was £30 as they wanted someone to try them out a couple of years back when they first started with them.

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Posted 6th Oct 2010 at 17:57
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Mins is some random uprated valeo unit. No idea no part numbers etc.

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Posted 6th Oct 2010 at 18:46
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As phill said, give them a ring and say you have had a word with me and see what they can do, or you could wait untill ive given mine some stick and see how it holds out.

From the 10miles i did in it earlier it seems all good, low down bite feels a bit weired, but gear change's are nice and smooth.

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Posted 6th Oct 2010 at 19:09
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bobdylan_55 wrote:
ive uprated to the ml5t box from a 406 v6, and then fitted a larger clutch plate from them. Takes a lot of work but apparently they can stand another 100nm torque through the entire box, not just the clutch.


Any chance of you doing an FAQ on how you did the conversion, the problems you encountered & how you got round them.
I think this is the next step for all the boosted boys to give them a box they can thrash without fear of it going BANG!!!

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Posted 7th Oct 2010 at 03:09
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cheers dan... keep me posted... am at waynes next tuesday... yours still booked in monday?

come along maybe?

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Posted 7th Oct 2010 at 07:09
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Mines still booked in for monday yea, wish i could come with you, but im going to have to put some hours in at work to make up for what ive spent LOL

Is yours high boost now then ? or you just having a proper map for low.

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Posted 7th Oct 2010 at 14:24
mabgti

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Doin some tweaks.

Ill give c.g a call monday as they said a ton for pressure plate!

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Posted 9th Oct 2010 at 00:23
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Do C.G paint the covers yellow?

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Posted 9th Oct 2010 at 04:32
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i was going to try a paddle clutch as can get them re done for like £50 when it needs doing, so depending how much it was going to cost to buy 1 i was thinking of doing that, im gonna subscribe to this thread tho wanna see what birks is like.

i only got 2k an 5 track days out a valeo clutch, cracked across where the springs are held in an the spring had fell out, could still get 1,2,3,4 but 5th an 6th were c*nt to get in! so next clutch i use will be high boost aswell!!

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Posted 9th Oct 2010 at 20:18
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chrisd306 wrote:
i was going to try a paddle clutch as can get them re done for like £50 when it needs doing, so depending how much it was going to cost to buy 1 i was thinking of doing that, im gonna subscribe to this thread tho wanna see what birks is like.

i only got 2k an 5 track days out a valeo clutch, cracked across where the springs are held in an the spring had fell out, could still get 1,2,3,4 but 5th an 6th were c*nt to get in! so next clutch i use will be high boost aswell!!


I had that same problem with my last clutch, except i couldnt change gear at all haha

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Posted 9th Oct 2010 at 23:11

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