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 chris with a pug
Seasoned Pro  Location: Southampton Registered: 16 Feb 2003 Posts: 5,366 Status: Offline |
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So p*ssed off with this cage right now.It just wont go together at all, can someone post some pics of how the rear stays upper fit and also where the tunnel brace should attatch. Ill post some pics in a sec of the issues me and James are having |
 Posted 23rd Sep 2010 at 01:59
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chris with a pug
Seasoned Pro Location: Southampton Registered: 16 Feb 2003 Posts: 5,366 Status: Offline |
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Posted 23rd Sep 2010 at 02:12
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #3
rear stays I dont think meet that high, and the tunnel brace sits a lot lower.have a look at rikkys' thread. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 23rd Sep 2010 at 02:16
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khj100
Senior User  Location: York Registered: 30 Mar 2003 Posts: 11,171 Status: Offline |
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I've posted a few pictures below of the main hoop installed in my car. Not ideal I'm afraid, but it's all I have on the camera and shows the main fitments. Hope this is useful. I can take more on the weekend if you want and can wait until then. Good luck!    ________________________________________ Trackday, trackday, trackday |
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Posted 23rd Sep 2010 at 02:32
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
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main hoop in kev's looks further back by an inch or two.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 23rd Sep 2010 at 02:41
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chris with a pug
Seasoned Pro Location: Southampton Registered: 16 Feb 2003 Posts: 5,366 Status: Offline |
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It will be, the rear stays lowers from my kit are too long |
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Posted 23rd Sep 2010 at 02:44
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khj100
Senior User Location: York Registered: 30 Mar 2003 Posts: 11,171 Status: Offline |
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Ahhh another custom cages special - brilliant!I know a couple (or more) of my bars had to be cut down considerably. Without taking you too far off topic, how have you dealt with your dash bar? Found anywhere for it to usefully go? ________________________________________ Trackday, trackday, trackday |
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Posted 23rd Sep 2010 at 02:50
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey  Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
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khj100 wrote: Ahhh another custom cages special - brilliant! I know a couple (or more) of my bars had to be cut down considerably. Without taking you too far off topic, how have you dealt with your dash bar? Found anywhere for it to usefully go? Up the Managing Director of Custom Cages arse?  ________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 23rd Sep 2010 at 03:26
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
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And I'll make it fit Chris, don't you worry.________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 23rd Sep 2010 at 03:27
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chris with a pug
Seasoned Pro Location: Southampton Registered: 16 Feb 2003 Posts: 5,366 Status: Offline |
Post #10
I thought the dash bar just goes through the steering column. Apparently it pushed everything away from you in the event of a crash |
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Posted 23rd Sep 2010 at 03:58
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khj100
Senior User Location: York Registered: 30 Mar 2003 Posts: 11,171 Status: Offline |
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chris with a pug wrote: I thought the dash bar just goes through the steering column. Apparently it pushed everything away from you in the event of a crash I think that's the intention.... but good luck to you and Jim, that's all I'll say!  ________________________________________ Trackday, trackday, trackday |
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Posted 23rd Sep 2010 at 03:58
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chris with a pug
Seasoned Pro Location: Southampton Registered: 16 Feb 2003 Posts: 5,366 Status: Offline |
Post #12
your dash bar looks shaped to the window is that the one u got from them? |
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Posted 23rd Sep 2010 at 04:08
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khj100
Senior User Location: York Registered: 30 Mar 2003 Posts: 11,171 Status: Offline |
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Yeah, it's the genuine CC one. When you offer it up, you'll find it's shaped completely wrong to fit through the steering column (the hole is actually a loooooong way back from the bulkhead).________________________________________ Trackday, trackday, trackday |
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Posted 23rd Sep 2010 at 04:17
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rikky
🦔 Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,793 Status: Offline |
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o helo i see custom cages wat???  ________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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Posted 23rd Sep 2010 at 04:38
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midlife
Seasoned Pro  Location: Colne, Lancashire Registered: 13 Mar 2006 Posts: 7,544 Status: Offline |
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rikky wrote: o helo i see custom cages wat??? Making no sense as usual Rikky    ________________________________________ Get used to seeing the yellow one !!! Team 330™ Team "no front end or engine" Team "LIMITED EDITION" I live for the 306 sticker  Team 0-60 in 6.44 & standing qtr in 14.808 @ 94.55mph all with std engine 203bhp Corolla T-Sport daily driver stealthier than Kwai Chang Caine |
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Posted 23rd Sep 2010 at 05:04
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro  Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
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Kevs was a right bas**rd too, I had to use a 10-ton porta power to get some of it in place, and the angle on the rear diagonals was completely wrong (looks like yours are the same, alter them at the bottom slightly and force them further outwards on the cage and they'll eventually come right - after about 10x the work they should have took) the rear lower stays were too long, the dash bar was so long you could have actually welded it across the a-pillars themselves rather than to the cage, and the windscreen bar is about an inch short of where it wants to be...Main hoop was a bit short too, and the a-pillars needed an inch lopping off, and.... All good fun, crack the grinder out. My CC install fee has doubled  ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 23rd Sep 2010 at 06:47
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
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chris with a pug wrote: I thought the dash bar just goes through the steering column. Apparently it pushed everything away from you in the event of a crash Rikky's does - after a bit of tweaking on the tube bender - Kev's was nowhere near, even tweaking it would have meant drilling a hole through the heater unit... Edit, looks like your main hoop brace is the same as Rikky's too - best thing you can do with that is centre it up on the tunnel brace, tack the whole lot in and ratchet strap the sides to the b-billar to flex them down, unless you know someone with a tube bender nearby. ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 23rd Sep 2010 at 06:50
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
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Oh and you're better off starting with the a-pillars/door bars/main hoop.You haven't really got any choice but to get the a-pillars in where they fit, so the rest of the cage goes in relative to them, the back half is much easier to alter if need be later on. ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 23rd Sep 2010 at 23:15
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cress87
Seasoned Pro  Location: Norwich Registered: 30 Mar 2007 Posts: 11,360 Status: Offline |
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Are they retarded or something? I thought somebody has already brought the issues to their attention.  ________________________________________ You feed beefburgers to swans.  I may have been speeding Mr Policeman but [a] I live for the 306 and [b] did you see that dog? omfg |
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Posted 23rd Sep 2010 at 23:42
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chris with a pug
Seasoned Pro Location: Southampton Registered: 16 Feb 2003 Posts: 5,366 Status: Offline |
Post #20
I got an emial back from them and they say, that they think the rear stays are round the wrong eway, but I am pretty sure we tried every way, but will try again.They say the tunnel brace is bent like this so u can tack one end in then bend the other side down as its pliable. They need pics of the dash bar and rear lower stays. And yeah cress they had Daveyboys car for 4 weeks even with the cage fitted in by them he had loads of dressing to do. And cheers phil thats not a bad idea startnig at the front |
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Posted 24th Sep 2010 at 00:52
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #21
It's the easiest way to do it really, then you can knock the front over to weld the screen bar in over the top before you fit it back to the hoop and drop the main hoop off the plates.Jim's got my number if it all goes a bit pete tong.  ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 24th Sep 2010 at 08:48
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chris with a pug
Seasoned Pro Location: Southampton Registered: 16 Feb 2003 Posts: 5,366 Status: Offline |
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we was going to call the other nigtht, but it was a bit late!! |
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Posted 24th Sep 2010 at 22:09
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
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I'm normally up while about 4am these days sorting the paperwork out for the new workshops anyway I can't vouch for the coherency of the answers by then though ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 24th Sep 2010 at 23:00
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chris with a pug
Seasoned Pro Location: Southampton Registered: 16 Feb 2003 Posts: 5,366 Status: Offline |
Post #24
Well I am waiting on a email back form custom cages to see what they think wanna do, its deffo not right. the rear stays are deffo wrong the profile is in the wrong place |
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Posted 24th Sep 2010 at 23:00
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phillipm
Seasoned Pro Location: Rotherham Registered: 15 Oct 2006 Posts: 20,607 Status: Offline |
Post #25
Yeah, Rikky's was like that, miles out, I remade one with some CDS offcut we had, Kev's were out a bit but not that badly, sortable with an hour and a soft pad on the grinder.Make you wonder if they've got the papers for the old cage mixed with the new one or something daft. ________________________________________ - Bespoke rollcages/additions/adjustments. Half cages right up to complete custom spaceframes - MSA/FIA spec, CDS, ROPT, T45, etc - PM meEmail me! Custom-made polybushes available - need an odd size or fitment? - anything from batch work to one-off pieces. |
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Posted 24th Sep 2010 at 23:08
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