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hi all, reet i think its time i want a new setup on my car, i want to keep it the same height but stiffer, i think im getting a fair bit of body roll as seen in the below pic

(taken at come on he Quarry corner)


i have Bilsteins all around on there atm which are about a yr old, been thinking about getting some coilovers, i know im not goin to get really good ones with my budget but i was thinking of these?

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only really want to spend around £250 but no more, or are there any other alternatives that you recommend for around £250 and lower 50mm

cheers

Iain

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Posted 16th Sep 2010 at 23:27
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any coilover that side of £600 is going to be a bit poor.

raise the ride height and stick to standard size springs if you can't afford proper suspension.

a hybrid anti roll bar will help.


p.s, that'll be sat on the bumpstops in that pic LOL

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Posted 16th Sep 2010 at 23:49
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the beam is fecked in that pic Wink i know im not going to get anything reallllly good for the price i can afford, its not asif its going to be a full time track car, so anything will be better than whats on atm i think Smile

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Posted 16th Sep 2010 at 23:50
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not really! standard oem stuff will be better than cheap coilovers.

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Posted 17th Sep 2010 at 00:13
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but i dont like standard height :p

doesnt have to be coilies tbh, anything that will give a 50mm drop and be slightly stiffer would be good Smile

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Posted 17th Sep 2010 at 00:16
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so you dont like nice handling pugs then? LOL

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Posted 17th Sep 2010 at 00:17
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tbh mine now handles better than it did on the standard suspension :p but tbh, i think the suspension ive got on is standard for 6s but with different springs, there the black bilsteins

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Posted 17th Sep 2010 at 00:18
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Get some stiffer springs, As said any cheap coilovers will be worse than you have, Plus dampers do not limit roll
Plus go too low and you;ll bugger up the roll center's anyway and make things worse

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Posted 17th Sep 2010 at 01:04
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yea dont want to go any lower than what it is, what springs do you recommend? which are 50mm

@miles: abit off topic, do you keep gear linkages in stock? might have a set off you in a few weeks if you do Big grin

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Posted 17th Sep 2010 at 01:06
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Falkner springs (May have spelt it wrong) do custom springs

Or fit a 30mm rear ARB, Yes it means machining or replacing 1 arm shaft but for the money it's a very worthwhile mod

Yes I always have the linkages in stk

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Posted 17th Sep 2010 at 19:03
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cant you get uprated springs for use on the bilstein dampers you have?

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Posted 17th Sep 2010 at 19:09
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keep the dampers Yes

spend the money on a 30mm ARB and machining the shaft to suit. (im sure teh 205 pins work without machining)
Then get some custom springs or progressive of-the-shelf ones with 40mm drop
the current eibach springs you have are too soft, i had same ones and wasent happy with them at all. No

Posted 17th Sep 2010 at 19:18
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take the springs out then youll get very little body roll

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Posted 17th Sep 2010 at 20:26
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Well as i need a new beam anyway, how much would it be to get the 30mm ARB and the work needed to fit it? Will the arb just make the rear end stiffer? Cheers

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Posted 18th Sep 2010 at 02:05
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what ARB can i fit without having to mod anything for it to fit?

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Posted 21st Sep 2010 at 00:52
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Spoox/Ash hybrid.

or just rebuild your beam and fit new shafts (as most need nowadays) and fit the 30mm.

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Posted 21st Sep 2010 at 01:16
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how much would it set me back to rebuild it?

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Posted 21st Sep 2010 at 01:24
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depends what's worn, but in parts anything from £35 to £135 + cost of a donor beam for a crossmember tube, if you're lucky and strike upon a set of decent shafts in a donor beam then you'll save £100.

plus labour of course.

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Posted 21st Sep 2010 at 01:28
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well id do it myself if its not too hard, picking a standard beam up tomoz for £90 with everything on it and getting the front struts and springs aswell,

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Posted 21st Sep 2010 at 01:31
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willing to help out if i can Wink

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Posted 21st Sep 2010 at 03:19
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ahh cool cheers Smile

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Posted 21st Sep 2010 at 03:21
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