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 fozzy_255
Senior User  Location: portsmouth/Folkestone Registered: 30 Dec 2007 Posts: 677 Status: Offline |
Post #1
Im just trying to find out info if this is possible.I know that the saxo has an electric PAS pump. Would it be posible to use this on a GTI6, and then just run an aux belt to alternator and just tension it using an adjuster like how it works on the 1.4 which came without power steering? I have seen a saxo pump used on a HDi off the Pug.net forum, will be getting some info off him hopefully too. Thanks John |
 Posted 23rd Jun 2010 at 03:14
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rallyestyle
Seasoned Pro  Location: London Registered: 23 Jul 2003 Posts: 14,990 Status: Offline |
Post #2
Some of the SC guys use the electric pump so that they can keep their AC so yes it is possible  Why would you want to use it? ________________________________________ Just Drive It |
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Posted 25th Jun 2010 at 13:41
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ben306
Seasoned Pro  Location: North West Registered: 17 Jan 2006 Posts: 2,930 Status: Offline |
Post #3
Im after information on this or relocating the pump from its current position aswell! So any info much appreciated________________________________________ My 306 Rallye Project ThreadFew recent Youtube track videos, more on my channel Pair of Rallye's doing a few laps of Anglesey Lap of Anglesey Coastal 3 sisters circuit Few laps at Blyton |
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Posted 25th Jun 2010 at 13:45
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rallyestyle
Seasoned Pro Location: London Registered: 23 Jul 2003 Posts: 14,990 Status: Offline |
Post #4
ben306 wrote: Im after information on this or relocating the pump from its current position aswell! So any info much appreciated Rich W can sell you a PSP relocating pack which will move it down to the location where the air con pump usually is located ________________________________________ Just Drive It |
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Posted 25th Jun 2010 at 14:09
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ben306
Seasoned Pro Location: North West Registered: 17 Jan 2006 Posts: 2,930 Status: Offline |
Post #5
Ahh, spot on, just looking into Sandy Brown bodies as it may be the next modifiaction over winter, but the PAS has to move  Thanks ________________________________________ My 306 Rallye Project ThreadFew recent Youtube track videos, more on my channel Pair of Rallye's doing a few laps of Anglesey Lap of Anglesey Coastal 3 sisters circuit Few laps at Blyton |
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Posted 25th Jun 2010 at 14:42
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro  Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
Post #6
You can use the s16 engine mount and pas mount, you have to grind of the ac lugs on the sump! |
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Posted 25th Jun 2010 at 14:48
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ash
Six Addict  Location: Chelmsford Registered: 25 Mar 2003 Posts: 7,520 Status: Offline |
Post #7
I've got one fitted to my SC 6 as it still has the aircon. I've also got an Electric PAS pump for sale £60 |
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Posted 25th Jun 2010 at 14:58
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fozzy_255
Senior User Location: portsmouth/Folkestone Registered: 30 Dec 2007 Posts: 677 Status: Offline |
Post #8
The reason i want rid of the powersteering is so i dont have to go round the rallye tensioners route. Went to the scrappy and the want £70 for the pump so i think i will just by the rallye set up. |
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Posted 25th Jun 2010 at 17:42
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velar
Regular  Location: swindon Registered: 04 Jan 2009 Posts: 448 Status: Offline |
Post #9
These pumps can be had on ebay for around £40.I fitted one to my 406 track car,and run a tiny v belt driven alternator (its got a GTI6 engine) Electric PAS is nice cos it can be switched off (run with it turned off most of the time.) It is not quite powerfull enough for the large 406 variable assist rack, but is OK for the 6 rack. ________________________________________ L reg "black and blue" phase 1 track 6 |
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Posted 28th Jun 2010 at 03:27
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smevs
Newbie  Location: Brecon Registered: 19 Apr 2010 Posts: 33 Status: Offline |
Post #10
I am definetly doing this conversion, managed to get a brand new saxo PAS pump for free, i just wondered; does anyone know the thread sizes for the pipes on a 306 steering rack (its a 1.6 rack), but i imagine thread sizes are the same for the lot. (yes, 'imagine' isnt a good choice of words, i know!). So, anyone know the thread sizes so i can get some custom PAS pipes made?Cheers, Sam ________________________________________ I drive a Peugeot, yet i always recommend a Honda? |
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Posted 30th Jun 2010 at 21:39
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fozzy_255
Senior User Location: portsmouth/Folkestone Registered: 30 Dec 2007 Posts: 677 Status: Offline |
Post #11
I think the saxo and 306 pipes are same thread size. juts heat the pipe nad bend int carefully. |
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Posted 30th Jun 2010 at 22:50
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smevs
Newbie Location: Brecon Registered: 19 Apr 2010 Posts: 33 Status: Offline |
Post #12
I'm not sure if that will work though because the placement of the rack is pretty different on the saxo; its mounted half way up the bulkhead whereas the 306 is down on the subframe. Not a bad idea though, ill have to look into if i can mount the pump elsewhere to account for this. Cheers.________________________________________ I drive a Peugeot, yet i always recommend a Honda? |
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Posted 1st Jul 2010 at 15:49
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #13
easy enough to get the pipes to fit, take the appropriate ends to a hydraulics specialist and have some hoses made up.you do need to use the last few inches of the steel pipes due to the routing. the pump can go pretty much anywhere as all they need is a fat power feed and a relay with a switched live, you can either have it on a switch or a simple splice off the Injection double relay so it only runs with the fuel pump. I have seen it under the boot floor, on the bulkhead behind the battery tray, on the battery tray, even inside the car. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 1st Jul 2010 at 16:27
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smevs
Newbie Location: Brecon Registered: 19 Apr 2010 Posts: 33 Status: Offline |
Post #14
Cheers welshpug, that was my original intention, but i had thought about just getting entirely new pipes made up, hence my need for the thread sizes; to minimise time off the road. But i think ill be better off just taking them down as you say and taking a week off work.Sam ________________________________________ I drive a Peugeot, yet i always recommend a Honda? |
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Posted 1st Jul 2010 at 20:51
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #15
they are not a hydraulic industry standard, hence the need to re-use the original fittings.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 1st Jul 2010 at 21:32
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velar
Regular Location: swindon Registered: 04 Jan 2009 Posts: 448 Status: Offline |
Post #16
As welshpug says, use the original ends and leave about 6 inches of pipe. Then get a length of flexi pipe made up that connected onto the short steel pipes ( think they were 10mm but can't remember.The return is low pressure so you can make your own pipe up. I mounted the pump on the inner wing. ________________________________________ L reg "black and blue" phase 1 track 6 |
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Posted 2nd Jul 2010 at 00:41
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smevs
Newbie Location: Brecon Registered: 19 Apr 2010 Posts: 33 Status: Offline |
Post #17
That was my original intention, but as i say i was trying to minimise off the road time. I suppose i could just scavenge some duplicates of my current PAS pipes and some saxo ones from a breakers and achieve the same result of minimum time off road by chopping those instead of mine. Plus then i would have the originals if at some point i decided to return to the belt driven set up (f*ck knows why but you never know!). Anyways, heres a question for you Welshpug, since we are in a similar area, know any good hydraulic specialists or is it just Pirtek? Thanks in advance.Sam ________________________________________ I drive a Peugeot, yet i always recommend a Honda? |
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Posted 2nd Jul 2010 at 14:15
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #18
yeah that would be a good approach, get some bits of pipe from a scrapyard off any XU engined 306.Seeing as you're in Brecon find any farm supplies type places that fix tractors etc, they'll either do or know where to get pipes made up. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 2nd Jul 2010 at 14:36
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smevs
Newbie Location: Brecon Registered: 19 Apr 2010 Posts: 33 Status: Offline |
Post #19
Good thinking, theres a hundred and one tractor garages around here, not sure how i missed that idea. Cheers for your help, and if ever you need a spot of discount on main dealer bits, pop into merthyr citroen (as long as its not my day off!)Sam. ________________________________________ I drive a Peugeot, yet i always recommend a Honda? |
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Posted 2nd Jul 2010 at 16:02
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