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Author Subject: BTCC style inlet manifold
mxcrazy

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I have had a search and not come up with much, but does anyone know what they did to the BTCC style inlet manifolds? I know the throttle bodies where enlarged with a different butterfly size.

Im sure i saw somewhere that they machined the trumpets out flush with the plenum but im not sure. This shortening the intact tract, presumably for more revs? On a reasonably standard engine would this work, or do you think it might be worth lengthening the intake tract, if anything atall?

On that theory, the PTFE inlet manifold gaskets, how much thicker than standard are they if atall?, if thicker, would this lengthening of the intact tract also be helping power?

i also found through google a 406 btcc manifold that had carbon trumpets on it, for single throttle body type. quite trick.

Any ideas/theories, cheers!
Posted 2nd Oct 2009 at 20:02
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Search is your friendWink

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Posted 2nd Oct 2009 at 20:06
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midlife wrote:
Search is your friendWink

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Indeed it is, hence the first sentence of my post, but if you can point me at something i havnt allready found on this site regarding them i would be greatfull. Ive spent some time looking and havnt found anything substantial, thanks
Posted 2nd Oct 2009 at 20:14
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I've never bothered to learn clickies Shut up Ban ? But I did this and you can read the whole sorry saga for yourself if you go to search and type in modified inlet manifold, look for the thread started by me (daveyboy) and you will see what results I got Dry

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Posted 2nd Oct 2009 at 20:18
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I've never bothered to learn clickies Shut up Ban ? But I did this and you can read the whole sorry saga for yourself if you go to search and type in modified inlet manifold, look for the thread started by me (daveyboy) and you will see what results I got Dry


I think a ban is a little ott to be honest, i will be straight though, i didnt search for modified inlet manifold, pretty much everything but, cheers for putting me in the right direction, if that all i need to know the post can be closed if required.
Posted 2nd Oct 2009 at 20:20
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mxcrazy wrote:
daveyboy wrote:
I've never bothered to learn clickies Shut up Ban ? But I did this and you can read the whole sorry saga for yourself if you go to search and type in modified inlet manifold, look for the thread started by me (daveyboy) and you will see what results I got Dry


I think a ban is a little ott to be honest, i will be straight though, i didnt search for modified inlet manifold, pretty much everything but, cheers for putting me in the right direction, if that all i need to know the post can be closed if required.


No the ban is for ME, been on here 3 years and I have'nt learned to do a clicky! Roll eyes

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Posted 2nd Oct 2009 at 20:23
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I was told that on a race spec head running big valves and high RPM my manifold would increase power, you would also need a high flow exhaust system (Maniflow or similar) I still have the manifold and it was nicely made but would'nt reach it's full potential on an otherwise standard engine. If you have plans to go to town on the head etc. the manifold is still available to buy as I never sold it after my try at it.

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Posted 2nd Oct 2009 at 20:27
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apologies sir, i thought you meant me for my inability to search properly, i have had a quick look and its exactly what i was after. thanks
Posted 2nd Oct 2009 at 20:41
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i wondered if the biger inlet ptfe gasket would make any difference with it increasing the inlet tratc.

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Posted 2nd Oct 2009 at 21:00
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Not much I would have thought, what are they, 5-6mm?

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Posted 2nd Oct 2009 at 21:50
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5mm, slight alteration, but not a lot.

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Posted 2nd Oct 2009 at 21:57
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Reading the post you reffered me too it didnt do too well on an otherwise stock engine then, which is what i am kind of aiming for, not going ott with it.

I may look into lengthening the intake tract then, that coupled with advanced intake cam timing, plus decent induction setup and exhaust should bring torque up, but i dont know about a sacrifice in BHP?
Posted 2nd Oct 2009 at 21:57
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Don't think you can make it much longer without doing something with the rad. They're pretty close as it isSmile

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Posted 2nd Oct 2009 at 22:05
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Advance the exhaust as well. You shouldn't get any decrease in BHp, but max will move a bit lower in the rev range. Mine has both advanced and makes 155lbft and ~175 BHp, but both around the 6k mark. Isn't slow at all.

Having a slightly bored out TB gives you a much more instant throttle response and thats about it. Mine isn't hugely increased though. Standard exhaust is good. The Peugeot Sport Magnex doesn't seem to have lost me power as far as I can tell. No obvious gain though.

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Posted 3rd Oct 2009 at 05:41
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Best thing you can do is move to lighter 7" wide 15" wheels with light tyres (PE2). My wheels + tyres weigh around 13.5 kgs each, versus the standard at about 18 kgs.

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Posted 3rd Oct 2009 at 05:51
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adam b wrote:
Best thing you can do is move to lighter 7" wide 15" wheels with light tyres (PE2). My wheels + tyres weigh around 13.5 kgs each, versus the standard at about 18 kgs.

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Posted 3rd Oct 2009 at 06:01

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