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hanpug25

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Post #26
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Going to be quicker than dribbly sh!t off a shovel Big grin

Did you see the Topgear where they raced a GTI180 against a 1.9 8v 205, 206 kicked its arse.

Image that in the 205! Big grin

Make sure you keep updated with pictures... Thats an order! Razz


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Posted 20th Jun 2009 at 13:57
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hanpug25 wrote:
paul_xiii wrote:
Going to be quicker than dribbly sh!t off a shovel Big grin

Did you see the Topgear where they raced a GTI180 against a 1.9 8v 205, 206 kicked its arse.

Image that in the 205! Big grin

Make sure you keep updated with pictures... Thats an order! Razz


Yes Sir Thumbs up


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Posted 20th Jun 2009 at 18:26
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Post #28
fit an omex or dta ecu etc, they will make you a loom then it will just need mapping, companies like omex may even have a map if you were running bodies but the best bet is fit the engine and aftermarket loom then take it to them to be mapped
Posted 20th Jun 2009 at 18:39
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hanpug25

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Post #29
jonnie205 wrote:
fit an omex or dta ecu etc, they will make you a loom then it will just need mapping, companies like omex may even have a map if you were running bodies but the best bet is fit the engine and aftermarket loom then take it to them to be mapped


Any idea on rough costs of these jonnie?

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Posted 20th Jun 2009 at 21:53
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hanpug25

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Post #30
Pulled the engine out of the 206 today, dead simple and everything came apart dead easy, joys of working on a 4 year old car.

Just lifted the shell off the engine and subframe:



The steel grey 205 behind the crane is the car the engine's destined for (and my trusty Xsara estate behind that Cool Blink

Engine looks huge at the mo, but the frame etc is still attached. Gonna lose the PAS and Aircon pump though:





Everything in the garage ready to seperate it all:



I pulled off all of the cooling pipes/loom etc and also kept the pedal box assembly as this may help me solve the relocation of the master cylinder issue:



Another thing I noticed was the top O/S mount was showing fatigue and was pretty badly cracked, similar to the way a 6 mount goes, but this was in a 40k car!

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Posted 20th Jun 2009 at 23:26
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Post #31
I spy 6 engine Big grin

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Posted 21st Jun 2009 at 04:58
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hanpug25

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Post #32
paul_xiii wrote:
I spy 6 engine Big grin


Roll eyes typical, a 180 engine and you lot are hunting out 6 engines 'wheres wally' style...There in the for sale section.

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Posted 21st Jun 2009 at 14:28
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looks a tidy 205 too.... keep up the work, see you monday eve...

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Posted 22nd Jun 2009 at 05:13
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Post #34
hanpug25 wrote:
paul_xiii wrote:
I spy 6 engine Big grin


Roll eyes typical, a 180 engine and you lot are hunting out 6 engines 'wheres wally' style...There in the for sale section.


LOL
I pity the fool!

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Private work, not a prob Smile
Posted 22nd Jun 2009 at 06:10
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pugsta78

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Very interesting conversion, but id definatley go afermarket management, Emerald,DTA,Omex etc.
i wouldnt even consider Megasquirt, most mappers wont touch them with a bargepole due to the DIY aspect of it? Will keep an eye on this. Well done and keep up the good work..
Posted 24th Jun 2009 at 00:16
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Good luckThumbs up Will be Cool when finished....

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Posted 24th Jun 2009 at 02:46
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hanpug25

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On hold due to credit crunch...May have to be a 6 engine now!

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Posted 12th Jul 2009 at 15:38
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monkeyman

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Post #38
hanpug25 wrote:
rikky wrote:
180 out of the box...


180 reliable standard brake.


180 is a bit hopeful, I'm a member of a 206 forum, most come in at the mid 160's, but an induction and remap can release the extra horses



http://www.gsrengineering.com/engineering/pages/productsbycar/peugeot/206_induction.htm

I've been tempted by this engine conversion, but getting a cheap one was difficult. I'm keen to see how this works out

EDIT: Only read the first page, hope you get a chance to complete this

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Posted 12th Jul 2009 at 16:48
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hanpug25

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Yeah, had a few say they only produce about 165, some say you have to have the 1st major service done at pug as they intentionally dont release the power til after this is done. Seen a few higher mileage ones kicking out a healthy 178+ BHP.

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Posted 12th Jul 2009 at 17:04
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lotek

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hanpug25 wrote:
Yeah, had a few say they only produce about 165, some say you have to have the 1st major service done at pug as they intentionally dont release the power til after this is done..



Huh? Surely not ?
Posted 12th Jul 2009 at 20:55
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paul_13

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Post #41
LOL: ^ Camel toe

I've heard this about these engine aswell Sad

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Private work, not a prob Smile
Posted 13th Jul 2009 at 04:00
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hanpug25

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Post #42
lotek wrote:
hanpug25 wrote:
Yeah, had a few say they only produce about 165, some say you have to have the 1st major service done at pug as they intentionally dont release the power til after this is done..



Huh? Surely not ?


Would be a wee bit naughty of Pug if its true...

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Posted 13th Jul 2009 at 11:09
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lotek

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its false advertising at the very Least, your buying a car rated at 180bhp , and not getting it, thats shocking!

a bit like Ford , they say there cars make certain power levels , but they measure them at sea level....
Posted 13th Jul 2009 at 22:15
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Any updates? Watching this Cool

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Posted 21st Jul 2009 at 17:19
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hanpug25

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c.a.r. wrote:
Any updates? Watching this Cool


No more done yet. Wife got me rebuilding the staircase Angry

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Posted 6th Aug 2009 at 14:21
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jubby

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Post #46
nice 1 mate, i used to have a sorrento green 205 with the gti180 engine and box with a quaife atb diff, it was fast! i had a omex 700 ecu and a power boost valve, mapped at noble and kicked out 195bhp on the rollers

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Posted 13th Nov 2009 at 03:03
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if you need any advice let me know, there is a place in riddings called repairgeot he's done a couple of these.

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Posted 13th Nov 2009 at 03:12
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Post #48
monkeyman wrote:
hanpug25 wrote:
rikky wrote:
180 out of the box...


180 reliable standard brake.


180 is a bit hopeful, I'm a member of a 206 forum, most come in at the mid 160's, but an induction and remap can release the extra horses



http://www.gsrengineering.com/engineering/pages/productsbycar/peugeot/206_induction.htm

I've been tempted by this engine conversion, but getting a cheap one was difficult. I'm keen to see how this works out

EDIT: Only read the first page, hope you get a chance to complete this



Sorry to dissapoint but my mate got 179 bhp and 138lb/ft Big grin no mapping required.Ninja

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Posted 13th Nov 2009 at 19:53
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craigy_87

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Post #49
mattyrallye wrote:



Sorry to dissapoint but my mate got 179 bhp and 138lb/ft Big grin no mapping required.Ninja


always take rollin road results with a pinch of salt LOL
Posted 14th Nov 2009 at 23:02
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lukejenks101

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hanpug25 wrote:
lotek wrote:
hanpug25 wrote:
Yeah, had a few say they only produce about 165, some say you have to have the 1st major service done at pug as they intentionally dont release the power til after this is done..



Huh? Surely not ?


Would be a wee bit naughty of Pug if its true...

I've asked about this in work, the earlier ones were 180bhp but they kept having problems so the later ones were about 165bhp and the 180 just meant the trim level

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Posted 14th Nov 2009 at 23:06
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