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tabbbster

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Hi all I've just fitted my oil catcher tank and I just want to know that I have fitted correctly. I am right in thinking that its reason for its being is to remove oil from the breather circut. ie. Not feeding oil into the air intake.

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Posted 21st Jun 2008 at 04:17
garry

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Looks OK to me, thats how I am going to do it.
Did you get the tank from ebay for £30 or so?

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Posted 23rd May 2008 at 00:38
tabbbster

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Na I bought it of Puglover off here. For £15 Smile But it looks like the same type.

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Posted 23rd May 2008 at 01:06
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Your filter on your ICV is a breather, not a filter, I'd suggest changing it for a filter Smile

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Posted 23rd May 2008 at 19:39
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you might want a little more drop on the block to tank, as all the oil and shit will probably just collect around where, wherew the blue 90deg joint it
Posted 23rd May 2008 at 20:03
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thats how i had it mate. Yes
Posted 23rd May 2008 at 20:04
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lower down imo or your path is uphill first

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Posted 23rd May 2008 at 20:08
tabbbster

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rikky wrote:
lower down imo or your path is uphill first


Ok will try to lower over the weekend. Also I am aware the little filter is a breather type and not a filter, I tried to get one today but my local Motor factors didn't have any. But I will get one soon.

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Posted 23rd May 2008 at 22:13
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Posted 23rd May 2008 at 22:34
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Post #10
personally! i wouldn't put the pipe back into the inlet, instead use that piper-x breather. Heres how i did it.

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Posted 25th May 2008 at 08:03
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I just run some hose to the floor.

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Posted 25th May 2008 at 13:28
pete_rallye

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You haven't actually acheived anything there tabbster. The whole point of a catch tank is to vent the crankcase presure to atmosphere whilst collecting the oil vapour in the tank. The original set-up feeds the crankcase pressure into the inlet, exactly the same as you have done there. On full throttle the vacuum from the inlet manifold will suck the vapour through the tank so quickly it won't do anything.

Get rid of the hose from the tank to the inlet, and replace it with a filter like the one you have on your icv.

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Posted 25th May 2008 at 17:39
tabbbster

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pete_rallye wrote:
You haven't actually acheived anything there tabbster. The whole point of a catch tank is to vent the crankcase presure to atmosphere whilst collecting the oil vapour in the tank. The original set-up feeds the crankcase pressure into the inlet, exactly the same as you have done there. On full throttle the vacuum from the inlet manifold will suck the vapour through the tank so quickly it won't do anything.

Get rid of the hose from the tank to the inlet, and replace it with a filter like the one you have on your icv.


And plug up the inlet manifold feed?

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Posted 25th May 2008 at 23:09
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The hose for the airfilter, are they 2 45deg ?

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Posted 26th May 2008 at 00:00
tabbbster

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ted wrote:
The hose for the airfilter, are they 2 45deg ?


Yes

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Posted 26th May 2008 at 00:22
petegti6

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pete_rallye wrote:
You haven't actually acheived anything there tabbster. The whole point of a catch tank is to vent the crankcase presure to atmosphere whilst collecting the oil vapour in the tank. The original set-up feeds the crankcase pressure into the inlet, exactly the same as you have done there. On full throttle the vacuum from the inlet manifold will suck the vapour through the tank so quickly it won't do anything.

Get rid of the hose from the tank to the inlet, and replace it with a filter like the one you have on your icv.


Not quite, the standard system is designed to eliminate any breather emissions while maintaining a negative crankcase pressure. A catch tank will do the same thing while "catching" the oil vapour and giving a cleaner intake charge.

At full throttle there is virtually no vacuum at all in the inlet manifold, manifold depression is almost the same as baro.

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Posted 26th May 2008 at 08:33
tobeski

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Out of interest (and lazyness Whistle) anyone know what the internal diameter of the hose is needed coming of the crank case to the catch tank?

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Posted 2nd Jun 2008 at 03:46
tabbbster

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Just measured the piping I've bought for the job and its 14mm ID and 20mm OD Reinforced coolant hose.

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Posted 2nd Jun 2008 at 04:05
iplay

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Should an oil catcher be attached to the black round one way valve type thing in the following photo?



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Posted 27th Oct 2009 at 17:44
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Posted 19th Jan 2010 at 18:15
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last photo shows the catch tank is doing what its meant to! need to really empty it out, thats about 8 months worth i think

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Posted 19th Jan 2010 at 18:17
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Many thanks for the photos ... I have seen the inside of inlet manifolds and they get so gunked up. I should have mine fitted by the weekend. I think I will add mine after the one way valve.
Posted 19th Jan 2010 at 19:33
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Post #23
Sorry everyone for reviving such an oldie.
On an S16 what pipes do you connect to the oil catch tank?
I guess one that connects to just in front of the throttle body and the other that comes from the head? Am I wrong?
Thanks!

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Posted 23rd Mar 2010 at 17:21
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i have got the pipe that runs from the bottom of the block near the filter to one side of the tank. the other upper middle one (underneath the head>cam cover breather) goes to the other side of the tank. it is a breathable mocal tank so the cap is the vent. i run a gti6 inlet setup so it doesn't feed anything back to the inlet but still catches the vapour. i have a valve to redrain it all back to the sump too

leave head>cam cover as is, you'll have to work out a way of filling it with oil though - funnel down dipstick, or get a threaded cap welded into the cam cover so it is fillable there

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Posted 23rd Mar 2010 at 17:55
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rikky wrote:
i have got the pipe that runs from the bottom of the block near the filter to one side of the tank. the other upper middle one (underneath the head>cam cover breather) goes to the other side of the tank. it is a breathable mocal tank so the cap is the vent. i run a gti6 inlet setup so it doesn't feed anything back to the inlet but still catches the vapour. i have a valve to redrain it all back to the sump too

leave head>cam cover as is, you'll have to work out a way of filling it with oil though - funnel down dipstick, or get a threaded cap welded into the cam cover so it is fillable there


Thanks Rikky - no other option?
Does sound a bit frightening at first read...
Would it be enough to disconnect the pipe leading to the intake hose and connect that to the catch tank?

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