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Author Subject: Strut not sitting in hub properly?
doof

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I fitted my new Bilstein B4 shocks the other week and as I was replacing wishbones I noticed that the struts weren't sitting all the way down inside the hub carrier. Now, there's a tab on the back of the strut to align the hub carrier with and it also stops the strut from dropping down too far in the hub however the strut looks like it could (should?) drop a further 10-15mm down into the carrier until it's flush at the bottom.

The thing that made me think something wasn't quite right is that even with -25mm eibach springs, the ride height looks to be higher than before, though admittedly that was on snapped springs Smile.
Posted 24th Feb 2014 at 11:23
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Yes it should be all the way down as far as it will go

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Posted 24th Feb 2014 at 13:27
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Is the tab up against the hub? I had noticed this when I had them on my grey car and was a little p**sed off as it also raised my front end
Posted 24th Feb 2014 at 13:39
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yea the tab is flush with the top of the hub carrier but it could slide it another 15-20mm before being flush at the bottom, It's like the tabs are too low on the struts.

Might have to email Bilstein but I suspect they won't know anything.
Posted 24th Feb 2014 at 14:00
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I was planning on cutting the tab off but just got coilovers instead, I doubt they will care to be fair!
Posted 24th Feb 2014 at 14:09
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They should do, it's crap quality control. Either way, do you reckon you could smash the tabs off?
Posted 24th Feb 2014 at 14:16
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If you did how would you know if there in the right place or not

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Posted 24th Feb 2014 at 14:27
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have you got an old shock to compare to? or anyone who can measure tab positioning on old shocks?

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Posted 24th Feb 2014 at 14:30
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I measured them when I noticed it and they are in the wrong place cant remember how much they were out by! My gaz golds don't have any tabs to locate them, I would cut/grind them off rather than getting a chisel to them tho! You could always leave 1-2mm of material so that you know they are both at the same height/depth
Posted 24th Feb 2014 at 14:44
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use a straight edge through it and mark it parallel, the mark it 15mm up and job done.

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Posted 24th Feb 2014 at 14:56
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I had this exact problem with some 205 b4s. 1 was right and the other was 10-15mm out. I phoned Bilstein, they got the drawings out, confirmed it was wrong and told me to send them back to where I bought them. Unfortunately they came on a car so I couldn't Sad

Like has been said, chop the tabs off, a lot of coilovers etc don't have them anyway. If you're concerned about orientation, scribe a line on the damper where the tab was/should be.

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Posted 24th Feb 2014 at 15:09
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f**k my life. Why is nothing ever simple!
Posted 24th Feb 2014 at 15:28
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doof wrote:
f**k my life. Why is nothing ever simple!


Playing with cars is never simple...

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Posted 24th Feb 2014 at 20:34
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I did this last year bought an after market replacement strut and the tab was slightly lower on the strut, didn't notice any hight differences tbh.LOL

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Posted 24th Feb 2014 at 20:49
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I've been in touch with Bilstein and they're very keen to get to the bottom of this. Annoyingly I've thrown my OE struts out so can't measure them. Has anyone got a strut and a tape measure? He's keen to know the distance from the bottom of the metal locating tab to the spring pan as he says it doesn't matter if the strut doesn't go all the way in, it may be designed like that.
Posted 25th Feb 2014 at 12:12
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Just to add to this, my old B4s were as you describe and also, my B8s which were fitted just before christmas are the same. Its never caused an issue and i just assumed this was how they were supposed to be!
Posted 27th Feb 2014 at 19:18
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Holy f**king s**t, I have this exact problem!

I was quite confused but thought "they must be right"

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Posted 6th Mar 2014 at 19:43
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Have you got an OE strut to hand? Would be great if you could get the tape measure out..
Posted 6th Mar 2014 at 19:33
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doof wrote:
Have you got an OE strut to hand? Would be great if you could get the tape measure out..


I have. I can't fit it to the car as its had the rod cut off but can measure from the bottom to the tab tomorrow.
Posted 6th Mar 2014 at 19:42
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doof wrote:
Have you got an OE strut to hand? Would be great if you could get the tape measure out..



I chucked them! I'll check my garage but I'm sure I chucked them in the skip

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Posted 6th Mar 2014 at 19:43
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Would be great if we could get measurements for both OE and b4 shocks. We need to check the distance from the top of the tab to the bottom of the spring pan.

I'd you could measure an OE shock Niall that'd be a real help.
Posted 6th Mar 2014 at 20:18
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bump for answers!

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Posted 7th Mar 2014 at 18:09
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HELLO?

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Posted 25th Mar 2014 at 19:05
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Posted 25th Mar 2014 at 19:30
Niall

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So, i measured the distance on standard shocks ages ago, wrote it down, scrapped the shocks and now can't find the measurement lol.
I know the original ones do sit flush with the bottom of the hub so you could just measure the depth of the hub?
Posted 25th Mar 2014 at 19:38

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