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Author Subject: Lightened flywheel dowel problem Kindve an emergency request
phil b

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Post #1
The dowel hole ain't lining up whilst tryna fit it, anyone else had this problem and how you to round it??

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Posted 31st Mar 2013 at 17:30
bigbadbowen

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Post #2
Nope not had this problem No
Posted 31st Mar 2013 at 17:38
beez_neez_gt

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Post #3
By how much, a little or a lot ?

Maybe use some brake cleaner after a quick sand using emery paper.

Edit, do you mean all the crank holes line up but dowl still doesnt?

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Posted 31st Mar 2013 at 17:43
coskev

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Post #4
Onto crank, or clutch onto flywheel?

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Posted 31st Mar 2013 at 18:00
phil b

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Post #5
The crank dowel doesn't line up on te lightened flywheel, when attempting to tap it on (wood and Irish screwdriver) it is catching the inside of the dowel and burring it,
If you look at the two side by side its ever so slightly noticible,
When I get back to the car ill get my measurements off the vernier
Bearing in mind this was bought second hand and 'fitted to previous engines' with pics I'm a bit baffled
I've a couple of ideas in my head but anyone else got any b4 I mention them??


Kinda p'd off too as I wanted to get the lump in today so I could start building the bodies and bay back up Thumbs down

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'97 PH1 'Sigma Blue' 306 GTI 6 project 'Tooters'
194.2bhp 127.6 dB
'96 PH1 'Black Noir' 306 DTurbo (project in permenant storage)
'94 300tdi LR Discovery (project gone dead and buried)
'99 td5 LR Discovery 2 (trailer tug and family bus) project 'in the garage getting chassis welded' (again)
The 6 can go fast, the disco can go anywhere
Built: 9 January 1997 - that's a Thursday
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Posted 31st Mar 2013 at 22:17
tvrfan007

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Post #6
Is your dowel damaged? Perhaps peened over or distorted?

Got another you can try off say, another engine?

Alternatively removing the dowel, offering the flywheel up and establishing with a drill bit or whatever that the two holes align. If they do you could try gently inserting the dowel.

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Posted 1st Apr 2013 at 08:23
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Moved to more appropriate section! Thumbs up

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Posted 1st Apr 2013 at 08:44
phil b

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Post #8
Soz Jeffers was abit distraught and p**sed off y'day
No it's not the dowel, it fits std flywheel not a problem!!
And bollox if I'm swappin the crank!!!
I either send the flywheel to an engineering place to have the hole elongated and poss rebalanced, or a take my ickle grinder and shave a wee bit've flesh off the top of the dowel to slide it on but keep the dowel??? Opinions please Cry Cry

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'97 PH1 'Sigma Blue' 306 GTI 6 project 'Tooters'
194.2bhp 127.6 dB
'96 PH1 'Black Noir' 306 DTurbo (project in permenant storage)
'94 300tdi LR Discovery (project gone dead and buried)
'99 td5 LR Discovery 2 (trailer tug and family bus) project 'in the garage getting chassis welded' (again)
The 6 can go fast, the disco can go anywhere
Built: 9 January 1997 - that's a Thursday
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Posted 1st Apr 2013 at 09:23
coskev

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As above, remove the dowel, bolt flywheel up and check if the holes line upThumbs up

If they do your dowel is damaged, either replace or get it machined downYes

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Posted 1st Apr 2013 at 14:41
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Post #10
Never had this problem, although I do remember the lightened flywheels being a fairly tight fit on the crank dowels, but nothing a small tap didn't sort out.

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Posted 1st Apr 2013 at 14:51
coskev

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stan_306gti6 wrote:
Never had this problem, although I do remember the lightened flywheels being a fairly tight fit on the crank dowels, but nothing a small tap didn't sort out.


Same hereThumbs up

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Posted 1st Apr 2013 at 15:06
phil b

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Post #12
Fairly tights like saying the popes a little catholic in faith......
Might skim a bit off the dowel with the mini grinder, I got a dowel on my old lump if I give up and I go std flywheel...... (Which won't happen FYI ) as I'm not up fr modifying the flywheel and messing up balancing

The little tap did nowt either

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'97 PH1 'Sigma Blue' 306 GTI 6 project 'Tooters'
194.2bhp 127.6 dB
'96 PH1 'Black Noir' 306 DTurbo (project in permenant storage)
'94 300tdi LR Discovery (project gone dead and buried)
'99 td5 LR Discovery 2 (trailer tug and family bus) project 'in the garage getting chassis welded' (again)
The 6 can go fast, the disco can go anywhere
Built: 9 January 1997 - that's a Thursday
Skip Brown cars: tarporley Cheshire Tel: 01829 720492
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Posted 1st Apr 2013 at 17:24
stan_306gti6 Forum Admin

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In that case then you definitely have an issue somewhere. Yes

I have fitted a few of these in my time now and it's never taken more than 2 minutes per time to get the flywheel fitted on that dowel. Smile

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Posted 1st Apr 2013 at 17:28
tvrfan007

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Something isn't right here. My flywheel was second hand and I got it straight on my engine no problem. It was a little snug on the dowel but it went on without bother, I didn't even need to tap mine home.

I think you should remove the dowel as I said before, then fit the flywheel bolts loosely, and try to slot a drill bit or similar through both. Your dowe l must surely be damaged, especially given your flywheel has come off an engine.

For clarity, I am ssuming you're using a Rich_W flywheel? Or are you fitting some sort of standard one that's been machined?

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Posted 1st Apr 2013 at 18:10
phil b

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Yeah rich w jobby

Jobs sorted now, through a stroke of bad luck grips made a hash job of tryna remove it so gave it a little shave, should stop the bugger comin out n all

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'97 PH1 'Sigma Blue' 306 GTI 6 project 'Tooters'
194.2bhp 127.6 dB
'96 PH1 'Black Noir' 306 DTurbo (project in permenant storage)
'94 300tdi LR Discovery (project gone dead and buried)
'99 td5 LR Discovery 2 (trailer tug and family bus) project 'in the garage getting chassis welded' (again)
The 6 can go fast, the disco can go anywhere
Built: 9 January 1997 - that's a Thursday
Skip Brown cars: tarporley Cheshire Tel: 01829 720492
add me --> philbrindley85@hotmail.com
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Posted 1st Apr 2013 at 20:25
stan_306gti6 Forum Admin

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Glad you've resolved the issue, but really can't think what the problem was in the first place. No

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Posted 1st Apr 2013 at 23:07
phil b

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Slight difference In tolerances both ways I think stan, I wanted to try n resolve without resorting to butchery and if anyone had similar experience but in the end bit've bad luck resolved original bad luck LOL

Now I'm tryna squint at loom wires for the omex loom swap (ph2 to ph1)

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'97 PH1 'Sigma Blue' 306 GTI 6 project 'Tooters'
194.2bhp 127.6 dB
'96 PH1 'Black Noir' 306 DTurbo (project in permenant storage)
'94 300tdi LR Discovery (project gone dead and buried)
'99 td5 LR Discovery 2 (trailer tug and family bus) project 'in the garage getting chassis welded' (again)
The 6 can go fast, the disco can go anywhere
Built: 9 January 1997 - that's a Thursday
Skip Brown cars: tarporley Cheshire Tel: 01829 720492
add me --> philbrindley85@hotmail.com
TEAM: Snapper Sad
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