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Author Subject: Rear end rebuild and repaint
gtisid

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After doing a few more car shows this summer, and winning best standard concourse in show at Pugfest 08 i have kind of got into the concourse scene. I have always thought my car was in pretty good nick when cleaned and polished but as with every car there are always areas you wish you could improve on.
I was inspired by a couple of cars at the shows and a couple of posts on this forum, and in particular the attention to detail that the concourse guys have in the RS scene. every job i do on this car is pretty much a first attempt and a massive learning curve is learned on every job.
Now with a car that is pretty clean on top the next step is to have a clean car underneath. It has virtually become a sunny day car anyway as i can no longer afford to tax insure and run 3 vehicles at the same time. so for around 300 days of the year the gti6 lays in darkest Essex in a lock up and every now and then i give it a loook , start it up and plan the next job on the car. I have toyed with the idea of selling it , scrapping it , breaking it or keeping it. i am keeping it at the moment with a view of showing it again next year.
list of jobs to do over Autumn and winter 08:

refurb and paint beam and underside of car
powdercoat suspension brackets ,rear beam mounts
upgrade solid rear beam mounts
powder coat brake calipers.
renew compensator
racing brake fluid

not much work there ......or so i thought.

Turned out every bleed nipple and brake pipe is seized into the brake compensator or calipers so after removing the rear beam it has turned into a project rather than a few bits being painted up



but any way here we go : rear beam removed and taken home to derust and paint. A tip for anyone thinking of doing this. Avoid hammerite, it is a pain in the asse to work with , sticky and reacts with just about every thing, acryllic paint cellulose paint and if you want a good finish it needs to be sprayed rather than dobbed on with a paint brush. so after doing it the first time in hammerite and being very dissapointed, i set about rubbing it down again




priming it in red oxide and then repainting it in signal yellow, radiant red and satin black:



this does not take long but i would avoid trying to do it all in a day, give each colour a night to dry or more as it makes it easier to mask up. alternatively strip the whole beam down into sections and paint seperately. i didnt have the time patients or gumption to do that and once i had about 30 different bits sitting on the garage floor i started to take pictures of everything so i could remember how to put it all back together. this camera phone has saved me a few times now doing stuff like this as i have the memory of a goldfish.


so with the rear beam painted it was time to move onto the underside of the car, although clean there are a few rust spots. so if you are going to do a job always do the whole thing or you will end disappointed when it is done. I stopped at removing the petrol tank as it is virtually full.( a bit of a contradiction but where do you stop calling it a small job and it becomes a full on restoration!!!) so cleaning it up and touching up the support is as much as that will get this year:

a little bit closer to getting it back together. turned into a nightmare after realising i need new calipers , a couple of new brake lines and several new clips and brackets. ho hum ....no pain no gain i suppose.


Managed to get a few bits back from the powder coaters today and set about putting it back together. still a way to go yet though

few more bits put back on this week , just waiting for my disc shields to be chromed and my calipers to dry and i will be able to change the brake fluid and get it running again

every M6 bolt has been changed to stainless steel ones, just started to use this site for shiney nuts , you can even get titanium ones if you are weight conscious tasty nuts . com and the heatshield has been chromed . although it would have been better to buy a new one i think as having my original sandblasted had a detrimental effect on the surface and made the chroming look like zinc plating.

after pondering on having the calipers nickel plated the plater talked me out of it after saying it may not look to clever on this sort of surface, so i settled for sandblasting and gold hammerite smooth. i really like the gold brakes with the chrome and silver wheels. not sure weather to go with a spare cyclone in the powder coated spare wheel holder or have the standard steely blasted and powder coated in black ? opinions please


Got the last few things back from the platers this week and went about bolting the final bits back on, renewing all the brake nipples to stainless ones and checking all the bolts and brake lines before putting new fluid through the system




My work is done here now and it is decision time on what to do next


thanks for reading i hope this helps someone and avoids doing everything twice which i seem to be good at!!

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Posted 21st Oct 2008 at 15:50
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Post #2
Nice...... Love

Want to do mine?

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Posted 5th Sep 2008 at 00:04
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Nice.
Going to do something similar to mine soon and going to go the whole hog and do the bearings as well.

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Posted 5th Sep 2008 at 00:14
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think the bearings are the only thing that is ok!!

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Posted 5th Sep 2008 at 02:25
gtisid

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will be having a set of rear mounts for sale soon if anyone is thinking about replacing theres. only bought my OE ones last year and have decided to put the solid mounts on whilst the rear end is off. wish i had the doe to upgrade the torsion bars but that is out of the question with all the extra expense on brakes though. did manage to source some refurbed calipers for 45 quid on exchange from partco. That is cheaper than it would cost to do a refurb yourself!!!i have seen the seal kits for 20 - 30 quid on ebay and they are more like 60 from pug so plus the effort involved in polishing and cleaning up the rears and refurbing them i decided these exchange units were the way to go.

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Posted 8th Sep 2008 at 01:36
gtisid

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a few more pics added to the first thread, getting close to finishing this part now and pondering what area to clean next? i have just managed to aquire a brand new front bumper so i maybe saving to get that done as i have also had the fog light rims powder coated now to so it should look like a new car when finished

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Posted 10th Oct 2008 at 02:10
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You are truely nuts sir, could eat your breakfast off the underside its so clean, good work Thumbs up

Hopefully one day i can get the underside of the Rallye looking like that Yes Excellent thread Smile

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Posted 10th Oct 2008 at 19:53
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although i admire your efforts i think the best way of doing this is starting from the shell and working upwards with nothing in your way, as you are technically not doing the car any good leaving half of it that's hidden untouched. did you rebild the beam before all that? i know time and space are of essence but i think to get it 'concourse' it absolutely has to be an upwards build from bare, not vice versa

looks shiny though Yes keep the pics going!

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Posted 10th Oct 2008 at 19:58
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Welly wrote:
Nice.
Going to do something similar to mine soon and going to go the whole hog and do the bearings as well.


Laugh

Oh and hang one, where was the rebuild part, or do you class rebuilding as simply painting and not bothering about bearings and seals etc?

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Posted 10th Oct 2008 at 22:12
gtisid

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have to agree it is nuts, a full shell rebuild would be nice but it doesnt really need it to be honest . there is no rust on it, the only place there was a bit of rust was here on the hooks on the end of the floor pan really and the heatshield. i do fancy doing a full rebuild on a car but not a 306 as there are so many little bits that can break when dismantling it. A mk2 escort would be my ideal project as there are only about 40 different things on the whole car . I didnt change the bearings on the beam as i overspent big style on the brakes and it doesnt need them. saying that they will probably fall apart in a true tonys luck deal in the next week or so.

so far the bill for this pointless exercise is as follows:
new calipers 45 exchange each
new brake lines 52
bilsteins Bought last year for 250 front and back
rear beam mounts 160
braded hoses (already on the car but 70 for anyone that wants to know)
chromed disc shields 25 to chrome
exhaust heatshield chromed 25 quid
m6 nuts and bolts all round (stainless)

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Posted 10th Oct 2008 at 22:48
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Think that looks really smart, Well done.

What does your wife say to you when she see's you on your hands and knee's under the car?? She must get on at you?

Carl

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Posted 11th Oct 2008 at 01:27
gtisid

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mechanical_repairs wrote:
Think that looks really smart, Well done.

What does your wife say to you when she see's you on your hands and knee's under the car?? She must get on at you?

Carl


wife.....errrrr oh i remember her bloody good cook if i recall.
i have had some mornings off carl she doesnt even knowLOL

come back all dirty in the evening and she thinks oh you poor thing

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Posted 11th Oct 2008 at 01:45
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Last few bits to this project have been bolted on now , touched in the underseal , waxoiled the underside of the boot ,replaced the spare wheel retainer with a powder coated one, repainted wheel and replaced disc shields with chromed ones and bled system and renewed fluid

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Posted 21st Oct 2008 at 15:53

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