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mechanical_repairs

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Well some of you may know at the beginning of the year i bought a very nice example of a 1.9 205 gti finished in miami blue, i have always wanted to buy a 205 and fit the gti6 engine to it, well the car has been sat in the corner of my garage now for months collecting dust due to not having any time to start it, well that all changed yesterday as work was slack and the lad i have who works with me had nothing to do so it all started.

The car itself is a 1994 205 1.9 gti with the later engine and ecu setup so only produces 122bhp which back in the day was good but by todays standard is no match for anything really.

How it was when i bought it-




The engine bay as it looked-



Then after a couple of hours this is what we managed (in the back of my head i was thinking what have i done!)-



With the old engine completely removed, it looks a nice and dry engine to be fair and so it should really after only covering 66k-




With the engine removed the bay looked a little grubby-



After a good clean with the hot washer and some elbow grease it came out like this-



The only bit thats going to need a fettle is the battery tray, looks like a battery must have leaked some acid in the past and done this-



Well one of these lumps should fit it i guess LOL-




Not really, i had a block and head to pieces and have started to rebuild it as once the lump is fitted i want to forget about it and jsut be able to use the car when i want without any hassles.

Heres the block, all reassembled, just going to give the block a good rub down and apply some engine laquer to it-



The cylinder head is all fully rebuilt and i had the clever idea of painting it again with engine laquer but in red, well once applied it looked a bit pink to me, what do you think?-








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Posted 8th Jul 2008 at 16:29
chrissykapow

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can't wait to see this when it's finished Yes knowing you Carl, you'll make a damn fine job of it too.... I really need to get my motor into yours sometime for a cambelt change this year and general checkover. Thumbs up

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Posted 8th Jul 2008 at 15:17
Carl Chambers

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Cry You have ripped its heart out poor little car!
How much do you want for the old engine, might come in handy for my 205, with the management as the later ones are more refined than the earlier even though they are less power.


ps you workshop is nearly as bad as my shed with bits of GTi-6s everywhere!!

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Posted 8th Jul 2008 at 15:24
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gkz 206 wrote:
Cry You have ripped its heart out poor little car!
How much do you want for the old engine, might come in handy for my 205, with the management as the later ones are more refined than the earlier even though they are less power.


ps you workshop is nearly as bad as my shed with bits of GTi-6s everywhere!!



I have sold the engine already i am afraid, it was sold to the lad who was parked up the road from you at the pugfest show, the one who blew the bottom end out.

I have parts everywhere.LOL

Carl

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Posted 8th Jul 2008 at 15:45
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Im sure it will look very nice when finished but it would have been nice to see it become a completely standard concourse gti i reckon Yes Still keep plugging away Thumbs up

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Posted 8th Jul 2008 at 16:51
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perfect candidate for the modified concourse class IMO Smile

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Posted 8th Jul 2008 at 19:00
mechanical_repairs

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Well done a little more today, cleaned back the block with the wire wool adapter in the drill, acid etch primed the block and then sprayed over it with high temperature black paint.

Then fitted the head, have to say this may be the most colourfull engine bay i have seen once this is all back together-






Carl

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Posted 9th Jul 2008 at 18:25
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That engine is gonna look smart Carl, i love painting things Laugh

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Posted 9th Jul 2008 at 18:41
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Looking good Thumbs up
Posted 9th Jul 2008 at 18:50
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Awesome project! loving the colourful engine. I also painted my engine the same colours, sliver manifold and red head block. it helps to keeps everything clean.

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Posted 9th Jul 2008 at 19:32
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what paint did you use for the engine? i wanna spray mine up (not so colourful tho) but not sure on what paint to use.
was thinking just some halfords engine paint would be up to the task.
Posted 10th Jul 2008 at 00:01
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Used acid etch primer then a high temperature engine paint.

The head was done the same but with a brush on style paint.

The tin of satin black you can see was for when i tried tidying up the block mount i cut around to piecesLOL

Carl

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Posted 10th Jul 2008 at 00:30
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Looking like a minter already carl

Thanks for doing a spot on job on my 6 rear bushes, cambelt kit and exaust spot on

Thanks again

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Posted 10th Jul 2008 at 01:28
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Looks like it'll be a very impressive project once finished Carl. You can rest safe in the knowledge that no matter what you do to it, it could never look any worse than Sean's Laugh

What are your plans for it? Sell it, show it, or abuse the hell out of it on track?! Whistle

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Posted 10th Jul 2008 at 03:59
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khj100 wrote:
Looks like it'll be a very impressive project once finished Carl. You can rest safe in the knowledge that no matter what you do to it, it could never look any worse than Sean's Laugh

What are your plans for it? Sell it, show it, or abuse the hell out of it on track?! Whistle




I havent really thought about it to be honest its way to nice to track, i think i will use the rallye as the evryday car and use this when its nice.

I would say show it, but its not show mint as little bits that the concourse guys go for are not up to spec i feel anyway.

Seans is an out and out racer though isnt it? LOL

Carl

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Posted 10th Jul 2008 at 04:34
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Cool

I'd love a 205 GTi-6 Love

EDIT: You using a 5 speed box? turning circle might be an issue LOL

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Posted 10th Jul 2008 at 05:17
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khj100 wrote:
Looks like it'll be a very impressive project once finished Carl. You can rest safe in the knowledge that no matter what you do to it, it could never look any worse than Sean's Laugh

What are your plans for it? Sell it, show it, or abuse the hell out of it on track?! Whistle



Just wait Mr Jones, the current one looks like a blind paraplegic has built it, but the new one will be a different league Whistle

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Posted 10th Jul 2008 at 06:00
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mechanical_repairs wrote:
Seans is an out and out racer though isnt it? LOL

Carl


Hell yeah, no half measures and no comprimise!

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Posted 10th Jul 2008 at 06:01
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petegti6 wrote:
Cool

I'd love a 205 GTi-6 Love

EDIT: You using a 5 speed box? turning circle might be an issue LOL


Yes using a xsara five speed box, should be nice that way with a steering lockLOL


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Posted 10th Jul 2008 at 22:44
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Put a 1.6 BE3 box on it Carl....it'll top out at 135mph but i'm sure that isn't an issue.

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Posted 11th Jul 2008 at 01:17
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Put a 1.6 BE3 box on it Carl....it'll top out at 135mph but i'm sure that isn't an issue.

It will scream its nuts off with one of them on, and just wheel spin everywhere! I think it will be better with the Xsara box on, I have the 6 box on my 205 GTi-6 and its plenty quick enough with that on, just has a totally crap lock but its a track car so it doesnt matter to me.


Carl what are you going to do bulk head wise? Mine had to be cut and re-welded to get the exhaust manifold and front pipe in! It would be a shame to have to cut or bash your one about.

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Posted 11th Jul 2008 at 02:42
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gkz 206 wrote:
smighall wrote:
Put a 1.6 BE3 box on it Carl....it'll top out at 135mph but i'm sure that isn't an issue.

It will scream its nuts off with one of them on, and just wheel spin everywhere! I think it will be better with the Xsara box on, I have the 6 box on my 205 GTi-6 and its plenty quick enough with that on, just has a totally crap lock but its a track car so it doesnt matter to me.


Carl what are you going to do bulk head wise? Mine had to be cut and re-welded to get the exhaust manifold and front pipe in! It would be a shame to have to cut or bash your one about.



I have shortened the exhaust manifold and lowered the angle on it, i will make it fit and adjust/modify the manifold rather than bash the car around, well thats the plan.

I have spoke to a few people who have done this on there conversion and it fits with no bashing involved, fingers crossed this will be ok with mine.

Going to fit the five speed box, would be nice to just have a few extra horses, look nice and surprise a few people, and have a steering lock LOL

Carl

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Posted 11th Jul 2008 at 03:34
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gkz 206 wrote:
smighall wrote:
Put a 1.6 BE3 box on it Carl....it'll top out at 135mph but i'm sure that isn't an issue.

It will scream its nuts off with one of them on, and just wheel spin everywhere! I think it will be better with the Xsara box on, I have the 6 box on my 205 GTi-6 and its plenty quick enough with that on, just has a totally crap lock but its a track car so it doesnt matter to me.


Carl what are you going to do bulk head wise? Mine had to be cut and re-welded to get the exhaust manifold and front pipe in! It would be a shame to have to cut or bash your one about.


Mine doesn't spin up really, just careful throttle control, and a plate LSD probably helps though.

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Posted 11th Jul 2008 at 05:59
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im going to be running the 1.9 box with LSD, have been told that the MI box would be better with the gti6 lump becasue of the shorter 1st/2nd and longer 4th/5th.
are you changing/uprating the engine mount? if so what ones? i was looking at them group N ones on ebay.
Posted 11th Jul 2008 at 13:11
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I've got a 1.9 box with 1.6 Final Drive on my Mi, which gives you the gearing of the 1.9 but revier like the 1.6

Found this site quite useful when working out what gearbox would be good.

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Posted 11th Jul 2008 at 14:22

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