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puglife

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Over the next couple of weeks major work will be going on 6 wise. I am going to change the power steering fluid and would just like confirmation as i think I know how but dont want to mess it up!

So,
1. Remove return hose from PAS fluid reservoir, and attach a hose to a suitable container.
2. Start engine, get pump running etc and move wheels a little and until all fluid is drained out.
3. Add a little to the reservoir to flush through any remaining junk and flush through.
4. Stop car.
5. Take reservoir cap off and get fluid ready, start car and slowly fill up the reservoir, moving wheel to pump through better filling to max level. Replace cap.
6. Go for a drive and test!

So, is that basically about right and when I get it done shall I take pics for an FAQ?

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Posted 14th Apr 2007 at 22:44
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welshpug!

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whatever you do DO NOT run the PAS pump without fluid, you'll destroy it very quickly as the oil lubricates the insides.

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Posted 14th Apr 2007 at 23:02
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puglife

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Ideal cheers Smile So the best way is do as above but make sure there is a little old fluid then just top up with new?

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Posted 14th Apr 2007 at 23:32
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unhook the pipe from the pump, and at the other end where it goes to the rack, IIRC this is the lowest point on the system so if you drain it from here you should get most of it out.

at the resevoir take one of the pipes off, (unsure of which ione, whichever is the lower one!) and drain it.

when its all empty stick a bit of copper grease on all the unions (on the threads and where the union clamps and turns on the pipes)

then fill up the resevoir and turn the steering from lock to lock slowly (both wheels in the air) when youre satisfied you have got nearly all the air out start her up and again turn the steering from lock to lock, keeping an eye on the fluid level.

Let it cool down and re-check the levels.

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Posted 14th Apr 2007 at 23:50
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Thanks!!!

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Posted 15th Apr 2007 at 07:48
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I changed mine using a turkey baster (large syringe). I remove all the old fluid from the resevoir then re-filled with new. Ran the car for 5 minute then repeated. You can get the Syringe from Tesco's!!

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Posted 15th Apr 2007 at 15:30
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Good plan! Less risky for a retard like me too Smile

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Posted 16th Apr 2007 at 02:32
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plus it means any bolts you undo you can't shear off, in true pug style Wink

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Posted 16th Apr 2007 at 23:13
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Sorry thread hijack!Blush

i've done this quite a few times!
but every time i do it they always end up whining??????

i've taken off the belt
emptyed out the old fluid and put in new conected the larger pipe at the top
turned by hand the pumps wheel until it pulls the fluid through put the other end in that screws into place and put the belt back on
turnd from side to side on full lock
but yet carn't get rid of the whining
what am i doing wrong?

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Posted 17th Apr 2007 at 04:18
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puglife

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Maybe your pump is buggered Sad

If you've tried all else that all it could be I suppose!

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Posted 17th Apr 2007 at 05:24
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SteviePut wrote:
I changed mine using a turkey baster (large syringe). I remove all the old fluid from the resevoir then re-filled with new. Ran the car for 5 minute then repeated. You can get the Syringe from Tesco's!!


If the old fluid is left in the pipes how does that mix with the new fluid? I don't understand how the PAS fluids flow ... is it like brakes? or does the fluid return to the master cylinder?
Posted 2nd May 2009 at 23:29
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welshpug!

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the pump pumps at high pressure to the rack and sucks fluid from the reservoir, return pipe from the PAS rack goes to reservoir.

not an ideal process described above as you'll still have a fair bit of old fluid mixed in instead of just disconnecting the pipes at the ram and draining them.

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Posted 2nd May 2009 at 23:51
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i will disconnect at the pipes at the ram ... can i just turn the steering to pump it out? or will it drain itself?
Posted 3rd May 2009 at 18:16
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welshpug!

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that will help drain the rack and pas ram yes, the pipes should rain themselves though.

may help to disconnect the pipes on the PAS pump as well.

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Posted 3rd May 2009 at 19:09
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stumped at the first hurdle ... disconnecting the pipes Big grin

where can i buy a tool to remove a peugeot fuel/hose clip?
Posted 4th May 2009 at 23:01
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Halfords do them for

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Posted 4th May 2009 at 23:12
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err, I just use a pair of side cutters to pop them open.

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welshpug! wrote:
err, I just use a pair of side cutters to pop them open.



Will they put them back together?

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Posted 5th May 2009 at 00:11
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welshpug!

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yup, with deft fingers and careful use you can clip them back together if they're the type I think they are, like on the fuel rail?

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Posted 5th May 2009 at 00:25
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BrianM

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Holy thread bump indeed...

I want to drain fluid from the reservoir so I can remove it to paint the bits underneath it and was hoping I didn't have to drain the whole system. So with reference to welshpug's comment on NOT running the pump without fluid in it, can the system be drained without the engine turned on and will the fluid run naturally from the lowest pipe at the rack end?

I actually thought of a turkey baster to remove fluid from the tank then clamp hoses before removal. Never mind!

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BrianM wrote:
Holy thread bump indeed...

I want to drain fluid from the reservoir so I can remove it to paint the bits underneath it and was hoping I didn't have to drain the whole system. So with reference to welshpug's comment on NOT running the pump without fluid in it, can the system be drained without the engine turned on and will the fluid run naturally from the lowest pipe at the rack end?

I actually thought of a turkey baster to remove fluid from the tank then clamp hoses before removal. Never mind!


You don't need to drain the whole system bri,your turkey baster is a good idea to keep the mess down!LOL

Just take as much out of the res as you can,disconnect pipes and put a container under them for drips.

Then when you re-fit just fill the res to max,the res is higher than the pump so it will gravity fill,fire up the engine and leave to tickover for a few seconds,then turn the steering from one lock to the other a few times to bleed the system,check your fluid and job done.Thumbs up

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Posted 24th Oct 2011 at 20:12
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Awesome, this job is going to be less of a pain in the arse as I first thought Smile Time to get stuck in about my new toy! Big grin

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Posted 24th Oct 2011 at 21:47
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