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Author Subject: New 306 owner
Ted92

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Post #1
Hey folks. First time French car owner here and I am loving it so far. I don't have a gti or rallye I have a 5 door 16v XSi but I still thought this would be the best place for parts and information. My name's Liam and I'm from north Lincolnshire. Getting the car in for cambelt change soon for peace of mind, have a gti-6 manifold, cyclones and a short shift on the way. Any other recommended upgrades would be much appreciated Big grin

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Posted 5th Jun 2018 at 12:21
silky

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Post #2
Hey Ted, another 16v XSI owner here. How you getting on with the car, any issues?
Posted 5th Jun 2018 at 14:47
orta

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Post #3
Glad to see still people discovering these cars!! I’m South Lincolnshire mate so it’s nice to have a neighbour

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Posted 5th Jun 2018 at 16:05
pug_306

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Post #4
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[quote="Ted92"]Hey folks. First time French car owner here and I am loving it so far. I don't have a gti or rallye I have a 5 door 16v XSi but I still thought this would be the best place for parts and information. My name's Liam and I'm from north Lincolnshire. Getting the car in for cambelt change soon for peace of mind, have a gti-6 manifold, cyclones and a short shift on the way. Any other recommended upgrades would be much appreciated Big grin



Welcome buddy. I think you bought wheels and other parts from me on eBay:-)

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Posted 5th Jun 2018 at 17:23
Ted92

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Post #5
Thanks for the welcome guys. Yeah I'm glad I've discovered the wonder that is the 306, great little car, quite fun, handles great. No issues as of yet as the cars literally been on the road about 2 days. As a rule I have a strong hatred for most French cars, but this 306 could change my opinion somewhat. And yeah it was probably you that I ordered the parts from mate, ordered a cat to go with the manifold earlier not sure if that was from you too.

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Posted 5th Jun 2018 at 18:33
Nose

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Post #6
Hi Liam, welcome mate.Thumbs up

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Posted 5th Jun 2018 at 22:53
stan_306gti6 Forum Admin

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Welcome to the club! Wave

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Posted 6th Jun 2018 at 12:10
asim_pug306

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Post #8
Welcome mate. Just a word of caution, I had two engines s**t themselves on a 1.8 XS and it had a GTI 6 inlet fitted both times. The gains are also minimal, although it makes your engine bay a lot nicer to look at.

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Posted 6th Jun 2018 at 12:44
Cjwatson27

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Post #9
Mine didn’t run right on a gti6 inlet. Noticed the difference with the exhaust manifold think you need the gti cat has well tho

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Posted 6th Jun 2018 at 14:55
Ted92

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Post #10
Don't worry folks, read about cars not running right with the gti6 inlet. Suggestions for other intakes are welcome though, something that would free up some noise Cool

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Posted 6th Jun 2018 at 19:37
Cjwatson27

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Post #11
I had a 16v xsi, I did the gti6 cams and inlet and exhaust almost went six speed drove a six would never go back you though about a engine swap ? That’s where I’d be rather than spend money on the xsi engine that would be best bang for buck imo

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Posted 6th Jun 2018 at 20:19
Day666

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Post #12
Welcome Thumbs up
Posted 6th Jun 2018 at 21:35
miki4

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Post #13
Welcome! Enjoy your life having a 306. Big grin But mind your wallet.
Posted 6th Jun 2018 at 22:11
Ted92

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Post #14
I will probably do what I'm doing for now, plus possibly suspension, intake and exhaust in the future, it is only a daily after all. I like the fact the XSi is a 5 door, see what the future holds. Wouldn't mind picking up a GTi-6 in the future but I already have two cars.

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Posted 6th Jun 2018 at 23:11
miki4

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Post #15
Mine's also a daily. Thumbs up In the last years I acquired a total of 6 306's which are all daylies for my friends and family. 5 of them are still with us and the last one is a Break and came two weeks ago.

What's an XSi actually? I think that's a UK special. Is it the Phase 1 2.0 engine with 121 bhp or the 2.0 RFV engine with 132 bhp?
Posted 6th Jun 2018 at 23:32
mocinim

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Post #16
My first fast ish car was the 3door xsi 140 brake standard
Although mine was remapped went like a rat out of an aquaduct
Loved that car
Till it shat itself and kept blowing the exhaust apart after the cat
Good car yo start with
!welcome!
Stick with the standard manifold and mod fifferent things if you want more from it
Start with a deep service buy premium parts not third party bits
And youll see a difference stright of

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Posted 7th Jun 2018 at 00:33
orta

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[quote="miki4"]Mine's also a daily. Thumbs up In the last years I acquired a total of 6 306's which are all daylies for my friends and family. 5 of them are still with us and the last one is a Break and came two weeks ago.

What's an XSi actually? I think that's a UK special. Is it the Phase 1 2.0 engine with 121 bhp or the 2.0 RFV engine with 132 bhp?


There were iterations of the XSi across all 3 phases. The P1 had an 8v 121bhp engine. It came in five and three door had the same body kit as the S16/GTi6

Then the phase 2 and 3 had a new 16v 2.0 with 130 or so bhp. This again was 3 or 5 door, it came with skirts and the 14” S16 wheels but on phase 2 it didn’t have colour coded bumpers in most cases which made them barely stand out from the lesser models.

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Posted 7th Jun 2018 at 07:45
Cjwatson27

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I had a 8v phase 1 before I had the phase 2.5 16v one. I swear you could walk faster than those old 8v ones lol

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Posted 7th Jun 2018 at 09:12
Ted92

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Post #19
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[quote="mocinim"]My first fast ish car was the 3door xsi 140 brake standard
Although mine was remapped went like a rat out of an aquaduct
Loved that car
Till it shat itself and kept blowing the exhaust apart after the cat
Good car yo start with
!welcome!
Stick with the standard manifold and mod fifferent things if you want more from it
Start with a deep service buy premium parts not third party bits
And youll see a difference stright of


What mods do you suggest? Won't be servicing it for a while to be honest, the oil is clean as a whistle. I presume the standard ecu is not mappable in the event of me getting an intake and full exhaust?

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Liam
Posted 7th Jun 2018 at 10:16
miki4

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There were iterations of the XSi across all 3 phases. The P1 had an 8v 121bhp engine. It came in five and three door had the same body kit as the S16/GTi6

Then the phase 2 and 3 had a new 16v 2.0 with 130 or so bhp. This again was 3 or 5 door, it came with skirts and the 14” S16 wheels but on phase 2 it didn’t have colour coded bumpers in most cases which made them barely stand out from the lesser models.


Thanks for the clarification. Thumbs up

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I had a 8v phase 1 before I had the phase 2.5 16v one. I swear you could walk faster than those old 8v ones lol

LOL

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What mods do you suggest? Won't be servicing it for a while to be honest, the oil is clean as a whistle. I presume the standard ecu is not mappable in the event of me getting an intake and full exhaust?


Probably all of these old ECUs are mappable, you just need to find someone who has already had experience with that particular ECU or can work out how to do it. We know for sure that there are specialists for the Magneti Marelli 1AP ECU which amongst others is used in the GTI6.

Regarding the oil, I always do an oil service soon after buying a car with incomplete history. You never exactly now which oil has been used and if the filter has been replaced. 5W40 is not 5W40 and the oil barely stains in a petrol engine through its lifetime. It can be clean but the molecules can be sheared which results in weak film strength. I always use an affordable but fully synthetic high spec 5W40 from Liqui Moly or Meguin (seems to be the producer but cheaper with that name on it).
Posted 7th Jun 2018 at 15:50
Ted92

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Post #21
Decided I'm going to give the old girl a service next month as recommended, oil, oil filter, plugs and air filter. Recommended parts? And is there anything else worth changing while I'm at it?
Cheers chaps

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Posted 11th Jun 2018 at 20:19
TomGC

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Post #22
Welcome along, good to see there's still a bit of life in the old forum yet. You'll lose hours to this place if you know where to look - there's lots of information buried.

My recommendation, from the point of view of owning both a GTi6 and a 16v 1.8 (XU7) and working in engine development, is not to mess with the engine. You'll find that the engines are both well designed and mapped out of the box - if you start changing things in the airpath the calibration on the ECU won't work very well, and it isn't best enabled to 'learn' any changes. It will likely either over- or under-fuel and could potentially run itself into det. None of which you want. They do suffer from sensor failures though - quite often the best plan is simply to make sure everything works as it should. A 306 is a light car and they clip along pretty well for a daily - even with power figures in the low 100s. You have to work the chassis and the 'box to make progress, but for me that's the fun...

If it were me, I'd concentrate your efforts on the chassis to yield improvements. start with the best tyres you can get, replace any knackered bushes, ball joints, drop links, etc. Then go for a decent well-matched spring and damper combination (the Bilstein B12 kit works very well).

As for parts, get the best you can afford. Don't discount genuine Peugeot consumables, which are sometimes not overly expensive. You may want to grab a fuel filter. Aside from that, thoroughly check all the suspension and brakes for condition and go from there.

And enjoy driving it!
Posted 28th Jun 2018 at 08:22
SmartyC

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Post #23
Hi! You'll love 306 ownership, most of the time! Well, any time you're behind the wheel!!

Whistle

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Posted 2nd Jul 2018 at 20:20

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