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Author Subject: suddenly not starting
vahtar

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Post #1
hi everyone i'm having a difficult time figuring what's wrong with my ph 1
Couple of days ago i stoped for a drink and when i wanted to leave the car wouldn't start anymore
it was cranking and the fuel pump primed but not firing
took out a coil and i get no spark
i changed the fuel relay module and the crank sensor but still nothing
the injectors and coils get 12v when the key is turned
it also has the keypad bypassed so im wondering if it maybe locked itself as i forgot to turn my lights off
a couple hours before i went to the pub and the battery was dead but it jump started immediatly and ran normaly
i'm having trouble where to start hope you can help me guys

Cheers Denis Cheers
Posted 5th May 2017 at 00:41
mocinim

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Post #2
Have you fully recharged the battery ???
If not do so could be something simple
Try a new battery if you can get hold of one

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Posted 5th May 2017 at 14:05
vahtar

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Post #3
I'll try it but i don't think thats the case as the old one turns the engine no problem
Posted 5th May 2017 at 14:14
rikky 🦔

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Post #4
cam position sensor? my 205 gti6 wouldn't fire intermittently and changed the crank sensor, didn't fix it, but the cam position one did. did this last week

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Posted 5th May 2017 at 14:32
coffeecup

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Location: Nantwich

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Post #5

Put the keys in, turn the ignition on but don't try to start.
Leave it for two minutes (use watch), then try start.

If it starts first time after this delay it is definitely cam position sensor (blue one).
Had this problem and drove me nuts.
Posted 5th May 2017 at 19:33
miki4

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Location: Cologne

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Post #6
coffeecup wrote:

Put the keys in, turn the ignition on but don't try to start.
Leave it for two minutes (use watch), then try start.

If it starts first time after this delay it is definitely cam position sensor (blue one).
Had this problem and drove me nuts.


What's behind this procedure? Does it trigger the ECU to fuel the cylinders simultaneously rather than sequential so it doesn't need the cam position sensor?
Posted 6th May 2017 at 02:22
vahtar

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Post #7
Tried new battery no success
Getting 12v volts to injectors and coil but no signal from ecu
Tested all feeds for 12v to ecu and relay all good
No idea where to try next
Posted 6th May 2017 at 14:14
rikky 🦔

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Post #8
CPS as above..

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Posted 6th May 2017 at 15:42
vahtar

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Post #9
Changed the camshaft position sensor still got nothing
Posted 9th May 2017 at 15:54
RallyeP6

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Post #10
Sounds like you may have to check continuity in the wiring back to the ECU, have you tried unplugging and plugging back in the ECU connector. Is there still no spark across the spark plug?.
Posted 11th May 2017 at 11:45
vahtar

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Post #11
I've looked at the autodata wirring diagrams and checked all the 12v feeds to multirelay and ecu pins i've also checked the grounds all good
Posted 11th May 2017 at 13:50
vahtar

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Post #12
Sent the ecu to a electrician told me it was dead
Posted 19th Jun 2017 at 16:23

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