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phillipm

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Post #76
Better order some more shipping boxes actually Doh

Guessing the available top braces are still a bit on the naff side then?

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Posted 10th Jan 2017 at 19:21
barrym

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Post #77
phillipm wrote:
Guessing the available top braces are still a bit on the naff side then?


Got any pics? Don't really understand what you mean by honeycomb.

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Posted 10th Jan 2017 at 19:34
phillipm

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Post #78
I can make the ends for the strut plates much better basically, with a honeycomb core and steel or carbon wrapped skin over it - any shape/size I need rather than using set tube bends, etc, and match the stock strut crown rather than making it out of thin flat plate to let it deform when it's bolted down like the others do.

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Posted 10th Jan 2017 at 19:44
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Post #79
Not sure that made it any clearer to me but sounds impressive. And who doesn't like honeycomb, tasty!

What sort of cost would we be looking at?

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Posted 10th Jan 2017 at 19:57
phillipm

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Post #80
Depends how fancy they go, cheapest way would be nylon ends with steel inserts under the bolts, and a steel or ally tube between them, most expensive would be a CFRP honeycomb sheathed in carbon fibre with stainless steel bolt inserts and carbon tube linking them....but I imagine somewhere between the two.

Basically something like this, where the honeycomb is custom shaped to the strut top dome, so we can make a nice thick, stiff endplate by skinning it carbon or steel as we don't need it to bow down to match the top like the thin steel ones, so it should work out far, far stiffer and being mainly a skin over the core still keeps it light, but I'm just playing with idea's atm:



And you can see what I mean about having the proper shape to the underside:





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Posted 10th Jan 2017 at 22:32
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Post #81
i'm still interested in the upper strut braces, not sure whether you would go over my top mounts though Sad

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Posted 11th Jan 2017 at 09:51
grantpipe

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Posted 11th Jan 2017 at 10:24
99rallye

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Post #83
I'm up for this.

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Posted 11th Jan 2017 at 14:25
phillipm

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Post #84
jorg wrote:
i'm still interested in the upper strut braces, not sure whether you would go over my top mounts though Sad


Do you have 'proper' top mounts that mount to the top side for more damper travel?
I can alter the cores to suit individual cars if need be, makes things easier than set sizes and jigs!

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Posted 11th Jan 2017 at 14:33
mik

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Post #85
Had a look on the bay and there is certainly a lot more choice now than there was in 2012 when I was looking for one. Hard to know whether the bay pics are of the 306 version or some generic pic, and I'm a bit particular about design. I've got a KD one on my car now which is the best design I could find, but it is still a bit crude although I cleaned it up a bit. Crucially it has no pivot points and is almost straight with no big curves or bends, all of which make a big difference to stiffness.

Your design looks better than any of the commercially available ones. If you end up making these, I could well be interested.

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Posted 11th Jan 2017 at 15:14
phillipm

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Post #86
Might be a slight delay, 406 just decided to set fire to itself Doh

On the upside, the boot is full of another batch of steel

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Posted 11th Jan 2017 at 17:54
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Post #87
Yes Please!

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How do you want me to pay for the lower strut brace though?

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Posted 11th Jan 2017 at 23:04
orta

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Post #88
Any update on availability of lower brace?

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Posted 12th Jan 2017 at 22:38
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interest for upper brace

1. pugheaven
2. russbez
3. Jorg
4. Grantpipe
5. 99rallye
6. Jaredboy
7. hampstead

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Posted 12th Jan 2017 at 23:13
craig903

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Post #90
I would be very careful with the top braces some 306s strut tops are rounded and not flat

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Posted 12th Jan 2017 at 23:50
phillipm

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Post #91
Which is why the underneath of the brace is rounded and not flat Big grin

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Posted 13th Jan 2017 at 13:45
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3. Jorg
4. Grantpipe
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Posted 13th Jan 2017 at 14:27
phillipm

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Post #93
Right, I should be sorted by the end of the week hopefully so I'll get the first lowers out then, apologies for the wait, wasn't expecting car to try to roast me Doh

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Posted 24th Jan 2017 at 12:54
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Post #94
Good news

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Posted 24th Jan 2017 at 09:59
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Post #95
Ill have an upper brace count me in

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Posted 24th Jan 2017 at 13:30
foot

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interest for upper brace

1. pugheaven
2. russbez
3. Jorg
4. Grantpipe
5. 99rallye
6. Jaredboy
7. hampstead
8. Foot
9. fatalities

looking forward to getting the lower fitted asap. when do you think the uppers would be made?
Posted 25th Jan 2017 at 11:49
welshpug!

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Post #97
manthos wrote:
Good news


irony.

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Posted 25th Jan 2017 at 11:53
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Post #98
welshpug! wrote:
manthos wrote:
Good news


irony.


I hope there more steely than irony Thumbs up

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Posted 25th Jan 2017 at 12:01
phillipm

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Post #99
Uppers I'll have a prototype in carbon of to show once the 406 is back moving.
Lowers are made out of recycled toilet rolls.

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Posted 25th Jan 2017 at 12:43
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Post #96
interest for upper brace

1. pugheaven
2. russbez
3. Jorg
4. Grantpipe
5. 99rallye
6. Jaredboy
7. hampstead
8. Foot
9. fatalities
10. RossSmile

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Posted 25th Jan 2017 at 13:13

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