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Author Subject: Upper steering column
oliverharveyuk@hotmail.co.uk

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Post #1
Anyone know how to put together an upper steering column?


Posted 9th Oct 2016 at 16:42
oliverharveyuk@hotmail.co.uk

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There seems to be very little info on whether the upper steering column bearings can be replaced? Is it possible any chance someone can check service box please? Worried I'm gonna put my replacement one on and have the same issue of play with the shaft within the column.
Posted 9th Oct 2016 at 18:36
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Post #3
inner just slides in.

probably can replace the bearings quite easily but they do last wuite a long time and a replacement upper column is easy enough to find cheap

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Posted 9th Oct 2016 at 19:57
miki4

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Service box does not list any replacement bearings. Looked that up some time ago. Would be top if someone could take apart a spare steering column and take some pics and measure those bearings, maybe put up a FAQ for a rebuild? Mine has also play in it but I don't have a spare I can dismantle and buying a good one will also only be a temporary solution as it seems to be a common problem.
Posted 1st Nov 2016 at 15:05
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I swapped them over anyway and luckily the second hand column I bought seems to be solid. Makes a huge difference on bumpy roads, can actually feel the road not like your floating all over the place!! Not sure how long that will last though... I am happy to take apart my knackered column and do some measurements/take pics but not sure what are the measurements required to find new replacement bearings?
Posted 1st Nov 2016 at 15:32
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Luckily mine has only slight upwards movement when arrested in lowest position, so it isn't really bad but still annoying sometimes especially since you know something's not okay in there. It is definitely coming from inside the steering column as everthing else is tight.

Honestly I don't know either which measurements to take but I guess inner and outer diameter, depth and some pics which show the shape should suffice to ask a bearing retailer or look something up on the internet. Before taking apart you should measure how deep the bearing(s) are located inside the column.

Maybe there is something written on the bearings that can help. What's the matter with that yellow plastic ring btw?

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Posted 1st Nov 2016 at 18:21
mocinim

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miki4 wrote:
Luckily mine only has slight upwards movement when arrested in lowest position, so it isn't really bad but still annoying sometimes especially since you know something's not okay in there. It is definitely coming from inside the steering column as everthing else is tight.

Honestly I don't know either which measurements to take but I guess inner and outer diameter, depth and some pics which show the shape should suffice to ask a bearing retailer or look something up in the internet. Before taking apart you should measure how deep the bearing(s) are located inside the column.

Maybe there is something written on the bearings that can help. What's the matter with that yellow plastic ring btw?

Thanks Thumbs up


Inner outer dia depth or height of bearing and bearing type presume its a sealed bearing find out if its roller or ball type bearings

If you have an old one you dont need split it and see take a pic should only have one race but check unless its pin type ??

Is it tapered ? self aligning ?

Try to find a part number is best Smug Thumbs up

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Posted 1st Nov 2016 at 16:38
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Took a better look at the pic looks like needle roller type

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Posted 1st Nov 2016 at 16:41
miki4

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Post #9
Also took a closer look at the last pic and there is something written on the bearing: "Nadella Deltaflex DG 138 PAT BTE".
Nadella is a German producer for needle bearings. DG are special series for steering columns.

According to following website it is basically a rubber ring in which a needle roller bearing is inserted. The dimensions shall be: 36 mm outer diameter, 22 mm inner diameter, 20 mm rubber depth and 10 mm inner needle bearing depth. http://ikco-club.ru/board/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=5909

The dimensions shown on this page should be more accurate: http://www.eskbearing.ru/prod?name=DG+138+TNSR

So now we only need to know the part number or dimensions of the other bearing. Smile
Posted 1st Nov 2016 at 19:01
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Post #10
Maybe it is only the rubber part of the bearing which shrinks and causes the movement? That could be an easy fix then - just insert something to fill the gap. Otherwise two new bearings and a polish of the running surface on the shaft and it should be good for another 15 years. Big grin
Posted 1st Nov 2016 at 19:08
miki4

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Post #11
Oliver, any news maybe? Love

oliverharveyuk@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
[...] I am happy to take apart my knackered column and do some measurements/take pics but not sure what are the measurements required to find new replacement bearings?
Posted 5th Jan 2017 at 23:28
oliverharveyuk@hotmail.co.uk

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Post #12
Oh sorry mate I assumed that as it had the writing on the bearing that was enough, I'll see if I can take it apart tonight and put some pics up Smile
Posted 6th Jan 2017 at 09:14
miki4

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No problem mate, thanks for your help! Smile I guess the dimensions of the Nadella rubber bearing I found on the russian site are correct. Can you verify that? But there is still the bearing with the yellow plastic ring I see in your pic.
Posted 6th Jan 2017 at 12:44

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