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dash came back very happy with how it turned out.



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Posted 21st May 2016 at 19:51
Day666

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Looks amazing Stef Thumbs up

Who did it & what sort of money ?...it looks flocked but what colour ...you can't tell by the picture ?
Posted 21st May 2016 at 20:19
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ws flocking in minehead, £120 for all of it including handbrake cover its black picture is crap tbh.

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Posted 21st May 2016 at 20:31
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ws flocking in minehead, £120 for all of it including handbrake cover its black picture is crap tbh.


3gan / Lee on here does mine & is he's amazing & fussy ...

stef ...Looks great though Thumbs up
Posted 21st May 2016 at 21:09
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So mot didnt go to plan, map sensor s**t its self on the way over and told the ecu to continually fuel for wot which made driving nearly impossible! I did a few wiring tests prior to ordering a new one. So a new 3 bar sensor ordered and £90 down LOL

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Posted 23rd May 2016 at 22:32
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That dash looks amazing mate....more things to add to the list for me

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Posted 23rd May 2016 at 22:55
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Been playing with fuel lately, Firstly after the mot my new 044 pump went faulty after a few miles extremely loud and pulsing fuel pressuring. Fitted the replacement but found my in tank pump was pressurizing the swirl pot so i sourced a high flowing feeder pump with a low pressure rating.



Fitting it was nearly criminal going from the bigger and fastest in tank pump to the slowest lol needs must! After fitting the pot seems much happier.

Next i had some goodies arrive Big Grin

The new injectors!



They are the lastest bosch ev6 model 470cc @3bar So plenty of fuel if needed. I didnt choose these because they give lots of fuel or that im chasing more power or unicorns! but mainly down to their spray and efficiency.



Even better than they are standard height which means no rail modifications needed.

Heres a comparison of my current lucas red bands 380cc vs the new.



As you can see they are already going to be far far better than the current ones.
I did a bench test of spray patterns not only to satisfy my self but to see how the injectors need to be positioned in the inlet for optimal performance. I was pretty shocked at the results and if you think these lucas items are bad you should see the favored Bosch 804 greens! :O



Been out putting some miles on the 205 lately finally enjoying the non surging fuel system! Ran into a issue one afternoon where id lost all power and nearly no boost what so ever. Found it very odd, check with the laptop all seemed well. Opened the bonnet to find this.



Supercharger said nom nom lmao close call imo Turns out the charger isnt fond of filters and having removed the filter boost levels have gone up. With that i will be speaking to ITG tomorrow about one of there nice air boxes as much as a open charger inlet sounds its risky. I have already made way for a air box including making the less important things smaller and moving them.



But apart from that i LOVE the open inlet haha. Lately we have been leaning on the poor engine abit more slowly turning it up and now i have the fuel system to deal with it.

Sunday i attended the Bhp fuelfest show as it is very local to me, Cued for over a hour and a half wasnt happy nor was the engine had to pull out the line as the car couldnt deal with it and wasnt worth it. 30mins later we cued up again but used a lane that wasnt being used and jumped to the front haha.

Anyway parked up with the other half created a crowd nearly all day with lots of questions including if it was for sale.





All in all a good day.

I have booked the car back in with the wizard to mainly check over things, like him to do it every few years even if its a tweak and to map the new injectors in.

Stef

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Posted 16th Jun 2016 at 21:46
demondriverdan

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Post #33
Where did you get those injectors from? Look like a good addition if I ever need to get the car mapped again.

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Posted 16th Jun 2016 at 22:14
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astra vxr injectors From vauxhall they are £150-180 with rail, regualtor and 4x injectors LOL From bosch direct they are around that price each! Mad! Part no:- 55556798 if anyone wants them. Smile

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Posted 16th Jun 2016 at 22:17
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Often thought about the 470cc astra vxr injectors after seeing them on my mates astra build several years ago. Didn't realise you could get them so cheap though!

The green bosch 440cc ones I have at the moment are notorious fir having a s**t spray pattern and are designed for 8v engines so don't need to split the spray....

Would think I'd need custom map jobby though if I changed them. Sad

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Posted 20th Jun 2016 at 08:10
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armzsc6 wrote:
Often thought about the 470cc astra vxr injectors after seeing them on my mates astra build several years ago. Didn't realise you could get them so cheap though!

The green bosch 440cc ones I have at the moment are notorious fir having a s**t spray pattern and are designed for 8v engines so don't need to split the spray....

Would think I'd need custom map jobby though if I changed them. Sad



Looking great as always Stef Thumbs up ....

Pete.... I take it yours are the Green Giant ones ?....I was led to believe they are reliable & good spray pattern m8 ?.....I had mine fitted to the New engine by Sandy ....but with respect my Green Giant 440 Injectors are like 1metre from my inlet LOL
Posted 20th Jun 2016 at 09:38
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Pete what injectors come with the LB conversation from Lynx?

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Posted 20th Jun 2016 at 10:29
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The bosch green top 440cc ones I was just saying about mate. Their not the best but presume rich chose them for a reason?

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Posted 20th Jun 2016 at 11:36
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Then I assume that's what mines running

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Posted 20th Jun 2016 at 11:37
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Yup only one I know to have run different was MABGTI he changed them for lucks ones then had a custom remap with Wayne and advanced inlet cam timing. Claimed 290bhp.


But I know he broke the car (I have his exhaust and few other bits) and he sold the engine and ecu together and the kiddy that bought it blew it up shortly after. So 290 is probably a bit high without lowering the compression.... hence rich capped it to 250-260.

Be good to see what difference the vxr ones make to yours though Stef. Should be night and day looking at the atomisation difference and spray pattern.

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Posted 20th Jun 2016 at 12:44
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my main issue is coking of the plugs at idle, I dont like running a lean idle mixture as it can create a unhappy idle where as a "richer" mixture settles things down considering the load of the charger aswell. Also im nearly running out of fuel with the injectors atm at WOT. So changing them seemed logical and having seen reviewing and tests of these injectors id thought id give them ago. Car is due back with sandy at the end of the month so we will see. Smile

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Posted 20th Jun 2016 at 17:13
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Strange how MABGTI hit 290 and failed. That's kind of what is happening to the low boost turbo cars too.

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Posted 20th Jun 2016 at 17:23
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Strange how MABGTI hit 290 and failed. That's kind of what is happening to the low boost turbo cars too.

Good luck Stef


Yeh it seems a lot without lowering compression I'd say limit seems to be 270 odd from safe running.

As I was discussing with rich before 300 should be achieve able reliably with a deliberately thick head gasket to lower compression but not quite as much as a full decomp plate using a gasket either side etc.

Mine runs lean at idle. It was commented on the last time I had it on a.rolling road and since installing my AEM wide band it shows its more around 15-15.2:1 rather than 14.7 stoichiometric. Pretty sure I have no air leaks anywhere either. But running between 12 and 13 on WOT all through the rev range.

You gonna have it mapped before pugfest Stefan?

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Posted 21st Jun 2016 at 13:30
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armzsc6 wrote:
fatlapit wrote:
Strange how MABGTI hit 290 and failed. That's kind of what is happening to the low boost turbo cars too.

Good luck Stef


Yeh it seems a lot without lowering compression I'd say limit seems to be 270 odd from safe running.

As I was discussing with rich before 300 should be achieve able reliably with a deliberately thick head gasket to lower compression but not quite as much as a full decomp plate using a gasket either side etc.

Mine runs lean at idle. It was commented on the last time I had it on a.rolling road and since installing my AEM wide band it shows its more around 15-15.2:1 rather than 14.7 stoichiometric. Pretty sure I have no air leaks anywhere either. But running between 12 and 13 on WOT all through the rev range.

You gonna have it mapped before pugfest Stefan?


Yes its back with sandy at the end of the month.

Ive been working on the car tonight ive fitted a brand new weber fpr and fitted the new injectors i had to tweak the map but thats a given. Car seems more responsive already and afr's are far more stable picks up cleaner and just goes! Really impressed so far and thats before its mapped.

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Posted 22nd Jun 2016 at 00:19
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Would those injectors work with NA as well?

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Posted 22nd Jun 2016 at 08:48
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What plugs are you running if their fouling up at idle? 7eix or 8eix?

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Posted 22nd Jun 2016 at 10:08
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demondriverdan wrote:
Would those injectors work with NA as well?


they would but they are abit ott for n/a engine ideally injectors need to run at 90% duty



armzsc6 wrote:
What plugs are you running if their fouling up at idle? 7eix or 8eix?


Neither of them, bcpr7es 3330's they dont foul once warm just cold start. I dont have a icv which makes cold start poor and rely on scatter spark.

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Posted 22nd Jun 2016 at 17:22
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Would those injectors work with NA as well?


On my Old Satchel inlet with 8 injectors the standard place ones next to the head did the low down work & the far away by Jenveys blended in with the fronts & did top end work and rears were only 330s ...90%

On my new Race Engine it has 440 Bosch green Giants that give split spray at 20 degree separation at 90 & they are a long long way from the head on almost straight one off Satchel inlet ...so I'm told it sprays straight / well & wide before it gets to head ...

So Dan with N/A you don't need crazy big cc injectors m8 ...I'm only on 440s with nearly 300bhp
Posted 22nd Jun 2016 at 21:14
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was snapped by fastcar at fcs


Today i visited the rollers with sandy made alot of noise and made some power.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5vxQna1NQ8

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Posted 29th Jun 2016 at 20:49
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Not much has happened in the way of updates just been driving it as much as i can.

I had a new clutch made for it by a DPR clutch services in launceston. It uses a luk centre but has had bigger springs etc and the pressure plate has also be beefed up. At the moment i do around 4k on a oem unit just seems to burn them up quick.



Finally found a air filter that would fit in the space i had available, managed to pick this up from k&n direct for about £40 6" wide and about 5" tall with a 3" inlet seems to work well without starving the charger, Certainly better than no filter.



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