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shabusta

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Post #1
before a beer or two i was ready to get the grinder out and forcibly remove this dam thing!

i have the forward bolt off no problem, the rear bolt is my issue,
the nut just keeps spinning in either direction it wont actually move on the thread!

trying to remove the bolt spins the nut but wont move on the thread,
trying to remove the nut spins the bolt but wont move on the thread!

yes i have a ratchet on both the nut and bolt, they are not free spinning, the bit above is just the logic.


since i found an old photo when i had it off last time the new paint job looks quite nice Big grin another coat if i can get it off.

Posted 25th Feb 2016 at 12:11
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welshpug!

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chop the bolt with a 1mm cutting disc.

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Posted 25th Feb 2016 at 12:37
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Become stronger or get a big bar

Sorry bit confused is it that you just cant undo it or is it sheared inside

If sheared force a screwdriver between the washer n nut the get a spanner on an un twist

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Posted 25th Feb 2016 at 13:58
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You could try a nut splitter if you can get one in assuming you've stripped the thread.

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Posted 25th Feb 2016 at 16:41
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Get a spanner on the top and a socket with a long bar on the bottom.

Turn from the bottom until the spanner wedges against something and then continue to apply force to the bar to undo.

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Posted 25th Feb 2016 at 16:59
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If the nut threads are stripped to such a degree that it won't loosen and just spins, then just chop it off as suggested.

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    • Posted 25th Feb 2016 at 17:59
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    shabusta

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    mocinim - i believe it is shredded and i doubt i will fit anything between anything, too tight.

    long bars and wedging spanners all done the nut just keeps spinning in place which is the annoying part as it does apply force to the bolt just wont catch the thread.

    Nut splitter or grinder it is Big grin i'm feeling nut splitter, add a tool to my small collection,
    and it will make for some good jokes at the local.

    welshpug! - when you say cut the bolt i assume cut the nut off the bolt?
    Posted 25th Feb 2016 at 21:29
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    welshpug!

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    yup, its the fastest way out, thin disc and chop through the bsse of the nut through the bolt

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    Posted 25th Feb 2016 at 21:31
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    shabusta wrote:
    mocinim - i believe it is shredded and i doubt i will fit anything between anything, too tight.

    long bars and wedging spanners all done the nut just keeps spinning in place which is the annoying part as it does apply force to the bolt just wont catch the thread.

    Nut splitter or grinder it is Big grin i'm feeling nut splitter, add a tool to my small collection,
    and it will make for some good jokes at the local.

    welshpug! - when you say cut the bolt i assume cut the nut off the bolt?


    In which case chap do as welsh pug said cut it if it was me id cut at an angle thin disc as said go through the nut n bolt at the same time

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    Posted 25th Feb 2016 at 21:48
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    tried to get a nut splitter but they only go to tensile strength 6 and the nut is the same as the bolt 10.9?

    i'm not too keen to get under the car and grind upside down any tips?
    Posted 28th Feb 2016 at 21:10
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    You could have that off in a couple of minutes with even just a near blunt hacksaw.

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    • Posted 28th Feb 2016 at 21:43
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    shabusta

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    ^ this guy +1

    Me..... god dammit its so simple.
    Posted 28th Feb 2016 at 21:46
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    welshpug!

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    shabusta wrote:
    tried to get a nut splitter but they only go to tensile strength 6 and the nut is the same as the bolt 10.9?

    i'm not too keen to get under the car and grind upside down any tips?



    MTFU.

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    Posted 28th Feb 2016 at 22:33
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    Ben_W

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    shabusta wrote:
    tried to get a nut splitter but they only go to tensile strength 6 and the nut is the same as the bolt 10.9?

    i'm not too keen to get under the car and grind upside down any tips?


    Yeah, get your wallet out and pay someone with some balls.

    I spent several months under the Rallye with a wire brush on a grinder inches from my face. Removing a single nut/bolt is gonna take less than 10s.

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    Posted 28th Feb 2016 at 22:48
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    more the problem is i have the wrong tools, was going to get the right disc this arvo and hack it off,
    i'll still get the disk see how the hack saw goes first.
    Posted 28th Feb 2016 at 23:00
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    If you worried about cutting the subframe cut through the nut close to all the way then go in with the hacksaw or nut splitter to avoid damage

    Before you begin go to the shop get some snickers (get some nuts)

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    Posted 28th Feb 2016 at 23:53
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    cheers Razz considering less than 5 months ago i had never changed a cars oil i aint going too bad.
    Posted 29th Feb 2016 at 00:35
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    mocinim

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    shabusta wrote:
    cheers Razz considering less than 5 months ago i had never changed a cars oil i aint going too bad.


    Fair play sir now undo that bolt Smile

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    Posted 29th Feb 2016 at 08:42
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    mocinim wrote:
    shabusta wrote:
    cheers Razz considering less than 5 months ago i had never changed a cars oil i aint going too bad.


    Fair play sir now undo that bolt Smile


    As my old chief engineer used to tell me as a boy

    Stop f**king around and get it done

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    Posted 29th Feb 2016 at 08:44
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    shabusta

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    I did! I even had a snickers with 3 kinds of nuts!

    Now the oem engine mount looked it up think my hack saw is too thick,
    Butchered the lower half of the mount with the drill / saw any tips?
    Going to the shops for a thinner blade tomorrow.
    Posted 29th Feb 2016 at 09:37
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    FYI the right blade on the grinder cut it like butter.
    Posted 29th Feb 2016 at 09:39
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    shabusta wrote:
    FYI the right blade on the grinder cut it like butter.


    Chuck a pic up bud

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    Posted 29th Feb 2016 at 10:07
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    shabusta

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    Not sure what you want a photo of so heres all of it!

    Posted 29th Feb 2016 at 10:40
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    you fitted the disc upside down.

    goof choice of grinder though.

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    Posted 29th Feb 2016 at 10:52
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    Is there even a wrong way round?

    Been in the family for 15 years i inherited it last year.
    Posted 29th Feb 2016 at 10:58
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