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Author | Subject: Day666 / 6 updates / 1% road 99% track/Race |
blandy
Seasoned Pro Location: Bucks Registered: 25 Feb 2007 Posts: 2,437 Status: Offline |
Post #1426
I guess similar in cost to the 205 kit he offers? seen a few of the 205 Ones so be nice to see how it does on a 306 when you reckon you'll be back out again? |
Posted 8th Sep 2017 at 21:23
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,209 Status: Offline |
Post #1427
quote: [quote="blandy"]I guess similar in cost to the 205 kit he offers? seen a few of the 205 Ones so be nice to see how it does on a 306 when you reckon you'll be back out again? Maybe Not this year now Early 2018 sadly Mike |
Posted 9th Sep 2017 at 03:11
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demondriverdan
Seasoned Pro Location: Londinium Registered: 29 Nov 2010 Posts: 2,665 Status: Offline |
Post #1428
Looks great Damo! If I could afford it, would love a similar kit in standard width________________________________________ Rallye Race Car |
Posted 9th Sep 2017 at 09:42
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,209 Status: Offline |
Post #1429
quote: [quote="demondriverdan"]Looks great Damo! If I could afford it, would love a similar kit in standard width Thanks Dan ...I really couldn't afford it to be totally honest m8 ...but when you got a spare lung what the hell |
Posted 9th Sep 2017 at 09:49
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blandy
Seasoned Pro Location: Bucks Registered: 25 Feb 2007 Posts: 2,437 Status: Offline |
Post #1430
Don't think I'll do another day till next year now be good to get a load together down to combe |
Posted 9th Sep 2017 at 15:18
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,209 Status: Offline |
Post #1431
quote: [quote="blandy"]Don't think I'll do another day till next year now be good to get a load together down to combe I'll keep you updated Mike ...that would be great |
Posted 11th Sep 2017 at 20:55
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,209 Status: Offline |
Post #1432
I visited a great chap called Simon ...he has a fantastic car that's a credit to him ...He has a Sequencal Hewland box fitted that I wanted to see and if possible try . Anyway Simons car is standard width but I do have similar Satchell tubular lower arms to Simons that are not Satchell ... The ARB that he uses looks similar to the Suzuki system I've seen on several rally cars....dam amazing problem sorted ... Simon was good enough to send me some pictures today... Hope this gives a few people some ideas ...Iain etc ? You should see a hole in the white body chassis Day666 has attached the following image: |
Posted 12th Sep 2017 at 17:08
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,209 Status: Offline |
Post #1433
The straight ARB goes through both sides of the chassis holes loose and into the Bolt on Alloy retainers with rollerbearing that supports the ARB that goes through.Day666 has attached the following image: |
Posted 12th Sep 2017 at 20:42
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,209 Status: Offline |
Post #1434
Straight Black splinted ARB in picture with ending fixtures to connect to the lower arms ...only one end on in the picture but two fitted ...hopefully you get the idea Day666 has attached the following image: |
Posted 11th Sep 2017 at 21:17
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,209 Status: Offline |
Post #1435
Amazing idea Day666 has attached the following image: |
Posted 11th Sep 2017 at 21:21
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #1436
very much like the 106 and saxo arrangement________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
Posted 11th Sep 2017 at 21:39
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,209 Status: Offline |
Post #1437
quote: [quote="welshpug!"]very much like the 106 and saxo arrangement Where did he get his from Mei ? |
Posted 11th Sep 2017 at 22:17
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #1438
no idea 0n that, not seen it on a 306 before.probably fairly easy to replicate with escort bits or similar ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
Posted 11th Sep 2017 at 22:27
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RallyeRed
Regular Location: Northwich Registered: 03 May 2016 Posts: 353 Status: Offline |
Post #1439
Looks a great solution, thanks for posting Damo. Obviously similar to works cars in practice.The key thing here for me, is the retainer; is it a custom part? I had considered with a standard 306 rear ARB could be employed in this way? There are also cheaply available rally Sierra items available with the possibility to make a similar solution from. I had initially been favouring a mounting welded on the chassis rail just in front of where the holes for Simon's solution sit, (Like on standard Sierras and Sapphires) but until I get my subframe and wishbones bolted up I can't assess clearance. Do you have any knowledge whether the exhaust manifold/downpipe needs to avoid it, or if it misses? Cheers Iain |
Posted 12th Sep 2017 at 10:50
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RallyeRed
Regular Location: Northwich Registered: 03 May 2016 Posts: 353 Status: Offline |
Post #1440
Here's an example of some of the bolt on solutions for older/modded cars that I think might practically just bolt on a require a little bit of work.http://www.kentautodevelopments.com/shop/product/kad-rear-anti-roll-bar-kit-suite-rear-disc-conversion There's more out there, and pretty sure something can swap over well.. |
Posted 13th Sep 2017 at 07:07
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RallyeRed
Regular Location: Northwich Registered: 03 May 2016 Posts: 353 Status: Offline |
Post #1441
And this is the other one I've looked athttps://www.rallydesign.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=609_881_882&products_id=7196&osCsid=84u1hpe17ohus01j6f1n1fba67 Cheap as chips and different bars to choose from. Would need someone more clever than me to work out its AR properties. I'm seriously tempted to have a look at fitment.. |
Posted 13th Sep 2017 at 07:15
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #1442
do you really need something larger than standard? or is it just trying to make it work with a different wishbone?________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
Posted 13th Sep 2017 at 10:57
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RallyeRed
Regular Location: Northwich Registered: 03 May 2016 Posts: 353 Status: Offline |
Post #1443
Is that to me Mei? If so, not after a bigger bar - looking at options for tubular wishbones which is how I think Damo has come to be looking at the same. |
Posted 13th Sep 2017 at 22:22
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,209 Status: Offline |
Post #1444
quote: [quote="RallyeRed"]Is that to me Mei? If so, not after a bigger bar - looking at options for tubular wishbones which is how I think Damo has come to be looking at the same. Yes ....trying to sort it out ? Sadly I'm away working on courses this week plus next |
Posted 14th Sep 2017 at 07:07
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,209 Status: Offline |
Post #1445
I've had a chat to the suspension guy / John from Black Art Design ...here's his response to me not running a Front ARB with my Satchell subframe arms ....Hi Damien Roll resistance is a good thing...front and rear in dry conditions on any car front or rear wheel drive like ARB's, it's only when you want to droop the wheel frequency (p**sing with rain) would you want to disconnect them....Saying that the Progressive spring rate set-up you have does a similar job to the ARB ... as the wheel is loaded the rate goes up on the loaded wheel...but more importantly the inside wheel rate drops like a stone, so riding the curbs on track is much better....which you don't get with an ARB. It really is a conditions thing...track conditions that is. You can back to back test it with and without to see what's best dry/wet. Best Regards John Stubbs Black Art Designs Ltd Unit 24 Broadfields Dunmow Road Rayne Essex CM77 6SA Tel: 01376 617610 john@blackartdesigns.com Hi Damien Yes we could convert both the front to 3 way as we put the take off for the hose on them. The 50mm wider arms / motion ratio will effect the spring rate...but not by much, you might not even notice it. The valving should have enough adjustment to cope with a higher spring rate, but only if it needs it...I'd say try it first and decide once you've given it a hammering round the track! |
Posted 19th Sep 2017 at 19:12
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,209 Status: Offline |
Post #1446
Also from Tony Palfrey of Maxi Motorsport plus Satchell famehttps://www.maximotorsport.com About ARB Hi Damien, Colin had designed and tested the kit to run without the anti roll bars. The advantages you gain in wishbone configuration and strength by losing the rollbar mounting points for wishbone location outweigh any advantages from running the ant roll bar with the correct Dampers / setup . So basically both these Gurus seem to sort of agree ...so I'm going to try fitting it all ...then get Colin Satchell to setup the car once it's all fitted ....bloody use it ....proofs in the pudding for my driving style |
Posted 19th Sep 2017 at 19:24
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superchargedblack1997gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: guildford Registered: 15 Aug 2009 Posts: 2,376 Status: Offline |
Post #1447
I told you it didn't need it mate , get Colin to help set it up mate and it will work brilliantly________________________________________ Super high boost Completed, destroyer of gearboxes and 160mph club |
Posted 19th Sep 2017 at 19:28
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,209 Status: Offline |
Post #1448
Well wow !!!https://www.maximotorsport.com/products.php?directory=products/MMS%20Gearboxes/Universal%20FWD%20Sequential I'd better start saving !!!!!! Tony's having one Day666 has attached the following image: |
Posted 20th Sep 2017 at 17:42
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #1449
yep, those came about because he kept breaking be boxes and cv's________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
Posted 20th Sep 2017 at 18:17
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RallyeRed
Regular Location: Northwich Registered: 03 May 2016 Posts: 353 Status: Offline |
Post #1450
Damien, going back to the ARB stuff, what front spring rates are you running?Cheers Iain |
Posted 20th Sep 2017 at 22:11
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