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 cully
Seasoned Pro  Location: Cullompton Registered: 12 Jun 2013 Posts: 1,093 Status: Offline |
Post #1
il add this here as well as Facebook to see what you guys thinkhave a go at diagnosing this! lead up new oil, new plugs for FCS, car running fine, Did around 100 laps track time with regular cooldowns but may have cooked the oil saw 130c at one point.... Drove home 100 miles started car next morning with the rattle?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3JGd3eIwiE |
 Posted 28th Jul 2015 at 21:40
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luke306rallye
Regular  Location: Rotherham Registered: 13 Sep 2010 Posts: 310 Status: Offline |
Post #2
Bottom end with the sound of it? |
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Posted 28th Jul 2015 at 22:15
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cully
Seasoned Pro Location: Cullompton Registered: 12 Jun 2013 Posts: 1,093 Status: Offline |
Post #3
its defiantly topend ypu can hear the cam slapping the followers in the head with quite a crack,i have flushed the oil and replaced with new it is no better the oil that came out is quite black and smells it only did 400miles tops |
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Posted 28th Jul 2015 at 22:30
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Cjwatson27
Seasoned Pro  Location: Oxford Registered: 17 Sep 2013 Posts: 1,968 Status: Offline |
Post #4
Could that be a broken or chipped valve ? ________________________________________ Old pugs don't die they just get faster |
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Posted 28th Jul 2015 at 22:43
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bigbadbowen
Seasoned Pro  Location: Winchester Registered: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 13,752 Status: Offline |
Post #5
Bottom end gone bye bye |
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Posted 28th Jul 2015 at 23:18
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6waysforward
Seasoned Pro  Location: Benfleet essex Registered: 30 Oct 2005 Posts: 3,168 Status: Offline |
Post #6
Didnt realize you had a derv cully  ________________________________________ ***Breaking*** Ph3 Silver GTI 6 High Boost |
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Posted 28th Jul 2015 at 23:21
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jimmyrallye
Seasoned Pro  Location: portsmouth Registered: 19 Apr 2008 Posts: 3,144 Status: Offline |
Post #7
Does sound like bottom end to me as well ________________________________________ "Police arrested two kids yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off." |
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Posted 28th Jul 2015 at 23:33
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superchargedblack1997gti6
Seasoned Pro  Location: guildford Registered: 15 Aug 2009 Posts: 2,376 Status: Offline |
Post #8
Yep sounds like bottom end with a lot of blowby too?maybe that hasn't helped the top end is it smoking at all?________________________________________ Super high boost Completed, destroyer of gearboxes and 160mph club |
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Posted 29th Jul 2015 at 00:36
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cully
Seasoned Pro Location: Cullompton Registered: 12 Jun 2013 Posts: 1,093 Status: Offline |
Post #9
nope no smoke, but it does lift the dipstick out the tube after a high rpm driveengine is on 140K I do hope its not bottom end as i have another engine with a bottom end gone with a fully rebuilt head I could mate this too I've decided what's happening with this anyway after a sleep.... the girls getting Sorned before the month is out engine gearbox out treat engine bay for any rust then refit new engine and box ive rebuilt over the last year |
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Posted 29th Jul 2015 at 06:33
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #10
thats one hell of a knock, itll be fooked.when the noise starts it doesn't do it on idle, only on change of speed, thatll be scrap rod and crank most likely, and with that much blow by the borea will probably take an oversized piston without machining... ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 29th Jul 2015 at 09:44
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cully
Seasoned Pro Location: Cullompton Registered: 12 Jun 2013 Posts: 1,093 Status: Offline |
Post #11
dont know if anyone is interested but ive done compresion test on the enginei think it shows that its the bottom end  cylinder 1 14.5bar (gearbox end) cylinder 2 14.5 bar cylinder 3 12 bar cylinder 4 14 bar warm cranked with WOT no plugs/double relay unplugged |
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Posted 2nd Aug 2015 at 17:51
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #12
doesn't show much at all really, sump off and check the big ends will tell you!________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 2nd Aug 2015 at 20:25
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cully
Seasoned Pro Location: Cullompton Registered: 12 Jun 2013 Posts: 1,093 Status: Offline |
Post #13
tonight I got bored so stripped the sad enginetiming pinned up OK although the timing belt was a little slack, started to inspect the pulleys and belt and found this on the inlet pulley.........  once I took the pulley off and undone the bolts the cracked centre fell out!  took head off head looked good no obvious marks on the valves or pistons  took the bottom end off no obvious picked up or spun bearings    not looked at the block yet so now where? would a slack belt or damage pulley cause that much noise? i guess ive got to get the journals sized and get the valves out the head and spin them up to see if any are bent |
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Posted 25th Aug 2015 at 21:08
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jeffers
Forum Admin Location: Leeds Registered: 14 Dec 2003 Posts: 3,702 Status: Offline |
Post #14
Iirc Rich W had an issue with them old style pulleys when he was running the Diablo super high boost, I seem to recall it was making similar noises too although I could be wrong... That bottom end deffo looks ok in the pictures....________________________________________ Team Running Engine again!Team Negative Camber! My Budget track engine build thread! Now appearing at a Trackday near you!!  |
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Posted 25th Aug 2015 at 21:12
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mechanical_repairs
Seasoned Pro  Location: leicester Registered: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 12,122 Status: Offline |
Post #15
Had the same issues regards the pulleys loads of times, luckily everyone was fine once changed over to the later sort, should you need any let me know, have a few in stock.I would have changed the pullies and not gone so far in mate, pullies would have sorted it. Carl ________________________________________ C.G.Cars of Leicester, Peugeot/Citroen/Renault specialist Tel: 01162 624498/07799 405184 WWW.CGCARSLEICESTER.CO.UK36 narborough road south, Leicester LE3 2fn MOT station now open, tests £35 with a free retest. Recovery available with a recovery unit, for those not so local jobs Also offer the loan of a free courtesy car 306 dturbo |
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Posted 25th Aug 2015 at 21:21
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miles
Seasoned Pro  Location: Ringwood Registered: 28 Dec 2002 Posts: 3,433 Status: Offline |
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The early pulleys are fine is looked after, it's good old mechanic syndrome as I call it now with do everything too tight, the one's I have on my old 285k 306 are still fineAll TU 16v run the same style ________________________________________ 306 Rallye Sptint/Race Car, 205 CTI 1.9 8v to name a fewRoad, Track and Race/Rally car preparation to your personal requirements, Full Workshop & Diagnostic Facilities New and Second parts, from Plugs to Turbo's We now also carry out Routine Servicing www.pugracing.com & FB Page, https://www.facebook.com/PugRacing Ebay; http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Pug-Racing-Shop 2012/2013/2014/2019 Class Winners at Gurston Down Speed Hillclimb & Joint overall, Class record too along the way, |
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Posted 25th Aug 2015 at 22:08
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cully
Seasoned Pro Location: Cullompton Registered: 12 Jun 2013 Posts: 1,093 Status: Offline |
Post #17
the crank plastigauge's up within spec with a set of new std bearings so the crank will go againinteresting find on the inlet valves running them round on the desk they dont look bent but all the inlets have a strange ribbed looking effect on the stems any ideas??  |
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Posted 5th Sep 2015 at 12:25
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bigbadbowen
Seasoned Pro Location: Winchester Registered: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 13,752 Status: Offline |
Post #18
Shagged guides |
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Posted 5th Sep 2015 at 12:28
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jeffers
Forum Admin Location: Leeds Registered: 14 Dec 2003 Posts: 3,702 Status: Offline |
Post #19
bigbadbowen wrote: Shagged guides Yep valves and guides required me thinks.... ________________________________________ Team Running Engine again!Team Negative Camber! My Budget track engine build thread! Now appearing at a Trackday near you!! |
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Posted 5th Sep 2015 at 13:13
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