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When I turn wheel by hand?________________________________________
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 superchargedblack1997gti6
Seasoned Pro  Location: guildford Registered: 15 Aug 2009 Posts: 2,376 Status: Offline |
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 Posted 25th Jul 2015 at 20:35
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rich_w
Seasoned Pro  Location: Havant, Hampshire Registered: 29 Jul 2004 Posts: 5,412 Status: Offline |
Post #27
Some do that, depends on design and preload if it's a plated diff.________________________________________ Contact Details:rich@lynxpowerengineering.co.uk 07732 822546 |
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Posted 25th Jul 2015 at 20:46
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fatlapit
Seasoned Pro  Location: STOCKSFIELD Registered: 02 Nov 2010 Posts: 3,040 Status: Offline |
Post #28
I agree with rich. Personally ive only broke 2 boxes one was a gti6 one and more recently the hdi box. Hdi box lasted 4500k but failed at coombe on the 93rd lap. Currently trying to find a solution with yune gears________________________________________ |
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Posted 25th Jul 2015 at 22:14
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rallyeash
Seasoned Pro  Location: Devizes Registered: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,424 Status: Offline |
Post #29
Yep. Don't be too hasty! I personally don't think it'll be 'that' bad ________________________________________ 230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys Project thread here309 3dr K20 Type R |
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Posted 27th Jul 2015 at 11:06
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superchargedblack1997gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: guildford Registered: 15 Aug 2009 Posts: 2,376 Status: Offline |
Post #30
Describe not too bad lol. Only done 1000miles on a fresh gearbox fresh diff. Thinking the oil overheated possibly. But as you say have to wait gearbox should be out tonight have a standard one to go in but we will see what happens. Thinking it may need an external oil cooler and pump to keep it cooler!________________________________________ Super high boost Completed, destroyer of gearboxes and 160mph club |
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Posted 27th Jul 2015 at 11:41
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #31
you need to figure what the problem is first, get some temperature strips on the casing and use it.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 27th Jul 2015 at 11:45
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fatlapit
Seasoned Pro Location: STOCKSFIELD Registered: 02 Nov 2010 Posts: 3,040 Status: Offline |
Post #32
My box was at about100 degrees at coombe. Got an oil coole circuit set up already. Trying to make internal spray bars atm.________________________________________ |
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Posted 27th Jul 2015 at 12:52
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Day666
Seasoned Pro  Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,212 Status: Offline |
Post #33
Good luck Ross ...hope it's not as bad as your thinking m8  |
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Posted 27th Jul 2015 at 13:58
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superchargedblack1997gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: guildford Registered: 15 Aug 2009 Posts: 2,376 Status: Offline |
Post #34
Knowing my luck mate probably worse 😀________________________________________ Super high boost Completed, destroyer of gearboxes and 160mph club |
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Posted 27th Jul 2015 at 13:59
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,212 Status: Offline |
Post #35
superchargedblack1997gti6 wrote: Knowing my luck mate probably worse 😀 NOooo you have got this far Ross & a thing of Beauty you have made ...keep your chin up ...it's not Cancer m8 ... It will get sorted Keep us all updated later m8 |
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Posted 27th Jul 2015 at 14:16
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
Post #36
I use a standard gearbox on mine, Miles from here reconditioned it and shot peened and coated the gears for strength.That was at the beginning of 2009, did a year of high boost with it and then been super high boost since 2010 - it's had 2012 and 2014 off the road but was used very hard in 2010, 2011 and 2013.  ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone  |
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Posted 27th Jul 2015 at 17:40
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superchargedblack1997gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: guildford Registered: 15 Aug 2009 Posts: 2,376 Status: Offline |
Post #37
I don't think my hard and you're hard are the same Stan  . Mine had miles take apart and fit some new bearings 1000 miles ago. But I can now confirm it has broken my lsd! And the gearbox is also broke! Will take more photos off it tomorrow.________________________________________ Super high boost Completed, destroyer of gearboxes and 160mph club |
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Posted 27th Jul 2015 at 17:44
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pugheaven
Seasoned Pro  Location: Fareham Registered: 17 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,602 Status: Offline |
Post #38
Ah man that's s**t, now we need to know what went first! I really hope it wasn't the straight cut gears at fault |
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Posted 27th Jul 2015 at 17:52
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cully
Seasoned Pro  Location: Cullompton Registered: 12 Jun 2013 Posts: 1,093 Status: Offline |
Post #39
something in my mind is saying shouldnt put LSD cars on a rolling road!going off to dig up info as I remember being told this somewhere |
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Posted 27th Jul 2015 at 18:17
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devere
Senior User  Location: Saxtead Registered: 16 Dec 2008 Posts: 810 Status: Offline |
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You are probably thinking of mot testing brake rollers... |
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Posted 27th Jul 2015 at 18:26
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cully
Seasoned Pro Location: Cullompton Registered: 12 Jun 2013 Posts: 1,093 Status: Offline |
Post #41
devere wrote: You are probably thinking of mot testing brake rollers... ah! yes MOT LSD on roller brake testers |
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Posted 27th Jul 2015 at 19:03
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superchargedblack1997gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: guildford Registered: 15 Aug 2009 Posts: 2,376 Status: Offline |
Post #42
Well that (could )be why the lsd broke then as Wayne did an emergency stop from 153 mph on the rollers when the gearbox broke lol but I think it was something else myself?________________________________________ Super high boost Completed, destroyer of gearboxes and 160mph club |
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Posted 27th Jul 2015 at 19:51
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rallyeash
Seasoned Pro Location: Devizes Registered: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,424 Status: Offline |
Post #43
Why did he do an emergency stop?________________________________________ 230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys Project thread here309 3dr K20 Type R |
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Posted 27th Jul 2015 at 20:00
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allanallen
Seasoned Pro  Location: Buxton Registered: 01 May 2007 Posts: 1,399 Status: Offline |
Post #44
LSD should be fine on the rollers, it's brake testing they don't like, when you stop hold one wheel and spin the other.________________________________________ www.bridgecraftmotorsport.co.uk |
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Posted 27th Jul 2015 at 20:01
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rich_w
Seasoned Pro Location: Havant, Hampshire Registered: 29 Jul 2004 Posts: 5,412 Status: Offline |
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superchargedblack1997gti6 wrote: Well that (could )be why the lsd broke then as Wayne did an emergency stop from 153 mph on the rollers when the gearbox broke lol but I think it was something else myself? Is the diff broke? What's broke on it? Braking on the rollers won't cause a diff to break, both wheels are turning at the same speed. The limiting factor is also traction, and one would hope it takes more force to break your diff than it does to break traction , otherwise your diff wouldn't last very long... ________________________________________ Contact Details:rich@lynxpowerengineering.co.uk 07732 822546 |
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Posted 27th Jul 2015 at 20:03
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,212 Status: Offline |
Post #46
superchargedblack1997gti6 wrote: I don't think my hard and you're hard are the same Stan . Mine had miles take apart and fit some new bearings 1000 miles ago. But I can now confirm it has broken my lsd! And the gearbox is also broke! Will take more photos off it tomorrow.So sorry to hear this Ross  Really was hoping it was something simple & cheap M8 ... Keep us all updated Ross !!!!!! Really am gutted for you Ross ...try to keep positive m8 |
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Posted 27th Jul 2015 at 20:14
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pete_rallye
Seasoned Pro  Location: Yorkshire Registered: 12 Dec 2002 Posts: 5,253 Status: Offline |
Post #47
You mentioned one of the CV joints had sprayed grease everywhere? Is the rest of the driveshaft ok? If it snapped or failed, the sudden transfer of load into the other driveshaft could potentially break a diff but it'd be unusual, I'm sure they come across greater forces on rally stages!________________________________________ Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 1Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 2 Lap of the 'ring |
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Posted 27th Jul 2015 at 20:20
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adam b
Seasoned Pro  Location: The Nam Registered: 24 Jan 2006 Posts: 12,828 Status: Offline |
Post #48
ML gearbox time? Or maybe a Saab one? Treating gears basically does nothing unless they are brand new. Even then we've found it to be pretty useless. Ended up using entire new gearsets custom built for the task but even those have issues over 900lbft ________________________________________ Nothing to see here |
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Posted 27th Jul 2015 at 20:23
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #49
I doubt they are rated for that much torque.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 27th Jul 2015 at 20:29
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superchargedblack1997gti6
Seasoned Pro Location: guildford Registered: 15 Aug 2009 Posts: 2,376 Status: Offline |
Post #50
Thinking mr2 turbo or I've found a ml sequential that may take the torqu but not looking at getting that very quickly at 12k  ________________________________________ Super high boost Completed, destroyer of gearboxes and 160mph club |
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Posted 27th Jul 2015 at 23:47
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