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Loving every update ☺
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 pete-gti
Seasoned Pro  Location: Kent Registered: 15 Feb 2009 Posts: 1,297 Status: Offline |
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 Posted 31st Oct 2015 at 17:25
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matt16v
Regular  Location: SE Registered: 24 Jul 2011 Posts: 217 Status: Offline |
Post #52
Where are the updates? Ash said it's nearly MOT ready!________________________________________ 1999 Astor Grey GTi-6 OEM+ |
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Posted 29th Nov 2015 at 09:06
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petey
Regular  Location: Devizes Registered: 24 Sep 2010 Posts: 263 Status: Offline |
Post #53
Another day to spend sorting the fuel lines then she's going in for mot...________________________________________ High Boost Supercharged 306 GTI6Alfa 147 GTA |
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Posted 29th Nov 2015 at 09:50
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matt16v
Regular Location: SE Registered: 24 Jul 2011 Posts: 217 Status: Offline |
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petey wrote: Another day to spend sorting the fuel lines then she's going in for mot... Get some photos while you're at it! ________________________________________ 1999 Astor Grey GTi-6 OEM+ |
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Posted 29th Nov 2015 at 11:16
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rallyeash
Seasoned Pro  Location: Devizes Registered: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,424 Status: Offline |
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Yes, Petes over next weekend and we should have the PTFE fuel line to finish the fuel line. Engine bay fuel lines are done into bulkhead fittings. Fuel swirl pot is mounted, just add lines from the swirl pot to the bulkhead fittings and back. Were running short of room in the engine bay so we've take out the battery tray and standard size battery. Ideally we will fit a Redtop battery. I'm a little concerned about water temperatures on track aswell to be honest, in my experiences standard GTI-6's are ok on track, but with an intercooler, oil cooler and charge cooler all sat directly infront of a standard thickness rad it may struggle to keep cool. ________________________________________ 230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys Project thread here309 3dr K20 Type R |
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Posted 29th Nov 2015 at 13:25
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prism7guy
Seasoned Pro  Location: DoncastAAAAARGH Registered: 13 Jan 2008 Posts: 4,637 Status: Offline |
Post #56
You could try doing what I'm intending to do with mine and make a shroud so all air that comes through the grille is forced through the rad with nowhere for it to escape, got similar issues with mine temp wise on track. I just need to find somewhere that sells big sheets of corrugated plastic at a reasonable price.________________________________________ Goldie the track car. |
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Posted 29th Nov 2015 at 14:19
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blandy
Seasoned Pro  Location: Bucks Registered: 25 Feb 2007 Posts: 2,437 Status: Offline |
Post #57
The breif time my 205 was charged keeping the coolant temp was a issue. Hopefully be easier in a 306 as there's a bit more room but on my 205 it was difficult to cram it all in + make sure I had decent airflow through the Rad. |
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Posted 29th Nov 2015 at 14:21
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fatlapit
Seasoned Pro  Location: STOCKSFIELD Registered: 02 Nov 2010 Posts: 3,040 Status: Offline |
Post #58
Fit a better rad an duct air to it.________________________________________ |
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Posted 29th Nov 2015 at 15:56
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rallyeash
Seasoned Pro Location: Devizes Registered: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,424 Status: Offline |
Post #59
Think the plan will be to move the charge cooler and oil cooler, one behind each foglight with air ducts. You can buy proper cooler air ducts then it's only the intercooler in front of the radiator. ________________________________________ 230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys Project thread here309 3dr K20 Type R |
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Posted 29th Nov 2015 at 17:24
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tvrfan007
Seasoned Pro  Location: In the garage Registered: 29 May 2005 Posts: 3,488 Status: Offline |
Post #60
I see this is using the inlet manifold and intercooler from mech_repairs. My piping goes the same route but was constantly nudging the radiator in some way - is that actually the right diameter pipework for high boost?________________________________________ I'm Si btw Night Blue VW Golf GTD Bianca LBSC Rallye - Track/Road Slag Project Thread Sparkling Silver Mini Cooper D - Super Dooper  - (The other half's wheels) |
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Posted 29th Nov 2015 at 20:33
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rallyeash
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Post #61
Don't know. It was low boost then converted to HB. So possibly not________________________________________ 230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys Project thread here309 3dr K20 Type R |
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Posted 29th Nov 2015 at 22:16
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petey
Regular Location: Devizes Registered: 24 Sep 2010 Posts: 263 Status: Offline |
Post #62
Yeh it's all 2.5" pipework. Low boost uses 2" I believe________________________________________ High Boost Supercharged 306 GTI6Alfa 147 GTA |
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Posted 29th Nov 2015 at 22:48
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rallyeash
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Sorted then!________________________________________ 230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys Project thread here309 3dr K20 Type R |
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Posted 29th Nov 2015 at 23:05
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superchargedblack1997gti6
Seasoned Pro  Location: guildford Registered: 15 Aug 2009 Posts: 2,376 Status: Offline |
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I never had any issues with heat with my highboost on the road even when I gave it death then stopped in traffic? If you've got a good set of fans on there they will do the job fine  ________________________________________ Super high boost Completed, destroyer of gearboxes and 160mph club |
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Posted 30th Nov 2015 at 20:38
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prism7guy
Seasoned Pro Location: DoncastAAAAARGH Registered: 13 Jan 2008 Posts: 4,637 Status: Offline |
Post #65
I can't overheat mine on the roads, the temps go crazy after a couple of laps on a track though. ________________________________________ Goldie the track car. |
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Posted 30th Nov 2015 at 21:56
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Day666
Seasoned Pro  Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,209 Status: Offline |
Post #66
Loving the updates  It's the track work that causes the ultra high temps ...mine is a standard engine with Jenveys....never a problem when going well on the road or Pugfest even ! I have done 12 flat out laps at Combe & I really do mean on my limit of driving & my Oil temp even with Miller top end oil & 19row thermostat plate that I checked was working had my gauge at 130-134 that's far to high !..... Im toying with getting a accusump after Christmas & I've been told that not only does it help with oil pressure drops & starting up lubing the bores....when gunning it dumps cooler engine oil in & keeps temps down when flat out when the oil pressure drops ? Ps...I've got my 19row in full airflow ....water temps aren't bad but Oil Temp gets Far to high ! |
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Posted 30th Nov 2015 at 22:26
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jeffers
Forum Admin Location: Leeds Registered: 14 Dec 2003 Posts: 3,702 Status: Offline |
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Day666 wrote: Loving the updates It's the track work that causes the ultra high temps ...mine is a standard engine with Jenveys....never a problem when going well on the road or Pugfest even ! I have done 12 flat out laps at Combe & I really do mean on my limit of driving & my Oil temp even with Miller top end oil & 19row thermostat plate that I checked was working had my gauge at 130-134 that's far to high !..... Im toying with getting a accusump after Christmas & I've been told that not only does it help with oil pressure drops & starting up lubing the bores....when gunning it dumps cooler engine oil in & keeps temps down when flat out when the oil pressure drops ? Ps...I've got my 19row in full airflow ....water temps aren't bad but Oil Temp gets Far to high ! What oil grade are you using? ________________________________________ Team Running Engine again!Team Negative Camber! My Budget track engine build thread! Now appearing at a Trackday near you!! |
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Posted 30th Nov 2015 at 22:48
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fatlapit
Seasoned Pro Location: STOCKSFIELD Registered: 02 Nov 2010 Posts: 3,040 Status: Offline |
Post #68
Christ I only get to 110what size 19 row do you use? the only difference is I use royal purple oil. But over the winter i`m fitting a sump oil cooler system and a gearbox cooler system with spray bars. ________________________________________ |
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Posted 1st Dec 2015 at 08:19
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rallyeash
Seasoned Pro Location: Devizes Registered: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,424 Status: Offline |
Post #69
Day666 wrote: Im toying with getting a accusump after Christmas & I've been told that not only does it help with oil pressure drops & starting up lubing the bores....when gunning it dumps cooler engine oil in & keeps temps down when flat out when the oil pressure drops ? Ps...I've got my 19row in full airflow ....water temps aren't bad but Oil Temp gets Far to high ! Not designed for this atall! They are in affect an extremely basic tool, You add air pressure to the 'dry' side of the tank, the other 'oil' side is pressured by the engine oil pressure. When running normally these two will balance, once the engine oil pressure drops the 'dry side' pushes the oil into the engine as it had greater pressure. You need to turn the valve on after start up and off before stopping else the accusump will dump it's oil into the engine! They are an ok system. But an accusump is only reactive. But mainly fitted as many race series don't allow dry sumps I've never got mine above 100 degree ________________________________________ 230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys Project thread here309 3dr K20 Type R |
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Posted 1st Dec 2015 at 19:07
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petey
Regular Location: Devizes Registered: 24 Sep 2010 Posts: 263 Status: Offline |
Post #70
It lives!!!The running/starting problem turned out to be a dodgy harness connection to the ECU. We sorted out a lot of other wiring problems along the way so it was kind of a blessing in disguise. Some other progress has also been made: Racing battery in the boot  More space in the engine bay, ECU mounted in a new position  I did a 2 stage machine polish as the paintwork had got bad where I have neglected it for a while, Looking dull waiting to be buffed off:  Looks much better now  Spent a few hours hand polishing and sealed it then treated her to a new sleeping bag  To get it ready for MOT it doesn't really need much now. To get it ready for the first trackday it needs the following: - Big brakes - Charger Oil & Engine Oil coolers relocation away from intercooler - Gearbox (straight cut 3rd & 4th) fitted But I will deal with that lot once it's MOT'd and run in properly... ________________________________________ High Boost Supercharged 306 GTI6Alfa 147 GTA |
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Posted 5th Feb 2018 at 14:12
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,209 Status: Offline |
Post #71
Thought you had disappeared  Brilliant work you two So great to see you got her finished Peter .... Where you planning on going this year ? I was hoping to get mine ready for Jap fest at Combe & then FCS & Pugfest ... |
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Posted 19th Apr 2016 at 19:04
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petey
Regular Location: Devizes Registered: 24 Sep 2010 Posts: 263 Status: Offline |
Post #72
Haha I think we had lost interest temporarily but I have found the love again!Once it's totally ready I'd like to do a day at Combe as I know the circuit well so will be a good place to drive it hard for the first time. I am off the the ring later this year (September I think) but would be nice to make it to a few other events/trackdays before then.... ________________________________________ High Boost Supercharged 306 GTI6Alfa 147 GTA |
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Posted 19th Apr 2016 at 19:25
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prism7guy
Seasoned Pro Location: DoncastAAAAARGH Registered: 13 Jan 2008 Posts: 4,637 Status: Offline |
Post #73
Oooh, when in september?Theres a trackday on the 26th i'm thinking about doing...  Nice work by the way guys ________________________________________ Goldie the track car. |
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Posted 19th Apr 2016 at 19:49
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rallyeash
Seasoned Pro Location: Devizes Registered: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,424 Status: Offline |
Post #74
Stuff's happened!________________________________________ 230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys Project thread here309 3dr K20 Type R |
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Posted 2nd Aug 2016 at 15:50
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Ben_W
Formerly gpm  Location: Lutterworth Registered: 01 Sep 2007 Posts: 2,941 Status: Offline |
Post #75
Care to be a bit more descriptive?!________________________________________ Cherry Red Rallye .... On going OEM spec restoChina Blue GTi6 .... Weekend toy Black 208 GTi .... Wife's car now Silver BMW 550i.... The executive missile |
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Posted 2nd Aug 2016 at 15:58
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