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Author Subject: short body dampers
pugheaven

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So I have gaz holds all round on the dimma, got to say they are good however due to the dimma being so low the rear shocks only have around an 1" of travel before they will bottom out Sad
Been on some bumpy roads and they haven't bottomed out yet but I was just wondering if there is any short bodied dampers that will give me a longer stroke
Posted 9th Jul 2015 at 09:02
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When you say bottom out do you mean her the bump stops or properly bottom out?

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Posted 9th Jul 2015 at 09:04
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I removed the external bump stops, bottom out fully Sad like I said it hasn't happened yet but I have a feeling it will one day
Posted 9th Jul 2015 at 09:09
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More like 3/4" actually lol
Posted 9th Jul 2015 at 09:12
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just too low.

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Posted 9th Jul 2015 at 09:17
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just too low.

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Posted 9th Jul 2015 at 09:17
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I know it's low for a normal 306 but as dimma's go it's not actually that low
Posted 9th Jul 2015 at 09:21
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Crap picture but as you can see I have around 2" arch gap
Posted 9th Jul 2015 at 09:30
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Hmm, that is low. If you can use all of the travel left it should still give you 50mm+ of travel. The beam can be lifted up into 20-25mm with custom mounts and some trimming to the body, this would certainly help a little. We may be doing a small batch of the mounts at some point.
Failing that you could approach some companies about custom dampers? Or maybe look at turreting the rear?

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Posted 9th Jul 2015 at 10:29
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The custom mounts would be great, with the thick tb's I don't think it moves a lot but every little helps! Would love to get a satchel rear suspension set up but im done with spending lots of money on the pug now
Posted 9th Jul 2015 at 10:37
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its a rally bodykit, its never been designed to run low with vag arch gaps!

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Posted 9th Jul 2015 at 11:13
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From pics of a few maxi's mine doesn't appear to be that low though
Posted 9th Jul 2015 at 11:18
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what tyres do you run?

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Posted 9th Jul 2015 at 11:43
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bono's maxi had much bigger arch gaps

i know, i know, maxi <> dimma, but just as comparison

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Posted 9th Jul 2015 at 11:58
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225 40 18

Posted 9th Jul 2015 at 12:15
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At the end of the day Ollie wants a particular look, for suspension benefits it would be far better raised but it'd look s**t so raising isn't an option.
I personally think the best option would be to raise the beam as much as possible and turret the rear end, Gaz supply basic dampers for £70ish+vat, you can modify your axles to accept a pivot bolt and any Motorsport based fabrication company worth it's salt can put the turrets in.

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Posted 9th Jul 2015 at 12:15
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thing is even raising the beam or adding turrets will have negligible effect as there is no arch left to move the wheel up into like a standard car.

IIRC the maxis ran a a 650 200 18 tyre, so about 15mm taller than yours again, the original 306 tyre is a 595 diameter!

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Posted 9th Jul 2015 at 12:23
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How much travel do you realistically want? A lot of circuit cars will only have around 50mm of compression travel anyway so it's possibly an option just to fit yourself some bump stops to save the dampers destroying themselves.

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Posted 9th Jul 2015 at 12:40
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seen how much the new gen btcc cars move about under power and braking? its a lot more than they used to!

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Posted 9th Jul 2015 at 12:56
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To be honest I've lost interest win btcc with the birth of the ngtc's Sad

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Posted 9th Jul 2015 at 13:13
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Whys that mate? they look awesome now in my opinion wider etc...
Posted 9th Jul 2015 at 13:32
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Because they just bolt generic subframes and engines (turbos Sad ) onto body shells, it's like a one make series now and it bores me. It's just to far removed from 'the good old days' for me, I far preferred the more basic cars of the 90s and then what progressed into super tourers.

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Posted 9th Jul 2015 at 14:22
Nick.gti6

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I suppose so, I see where your coming from now haha

More like real road cars doing it I suppose
Posted 9th Jul 2015 at 14:48
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I think visually the ride height is spot on for that car, however suspension wise it probably is a bit low...

If roughly 2.5mm wheel movement to 1mm damper movement you'll still get nearly 2' wheel movement before bottoming out the damper.

For shorter ones maybe look through some kit car sites for off the shel dampers with the right ID on bolt hole just a short closed length.
Merlin Motorsport carry a fair few dampers.

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Posted 9th Jul 2015 at 23:48
pugheaven

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Some good info, I haven't bottomed out yet and the roads around my area are bumpy as hell, think I will get these stubby mounts and raise the car a tad
Posted 10th Jul 2015 at 07:14

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