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pete_rallye

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Got a set of these for sale, in excellent used condition. Similar spec to PT81's, you can run them without pocketed pistons but it is advisable to pocket the pistons.

I also have a set of Longman btcc valve springs that can be included as Piper recommend upgrading the valve springs although most people run them on standard valve springs.

£300 for the cams

£150 for the springs

Standard set of pistons can be included for free with both the above, plus the cost of pocketing if you want me to arrange it.

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Posted 29th May 2015 at 15:47
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orta

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Don't wanna get flamed but these are listed as stage 3 and ultimate road on the piper website but don't really understand the degree of lift etc. will these run, along with pocketed pistons and the valve springs on an otherwise standard engine...? And what would be the difference to power delivery/power etc

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Posted 30th May 2015 at 18:54
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pete_rallye

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Yes they will run but you'd benefit from a remap. Otherwise standard engine will be fine, the heads are really good as standard and will flow considerably more than the standard cams ask of it, revs won't need to go up much if at all, and generally the engine will take more revs within reason. As long as your current engine I'd in good health all should be fine.

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Posted 30th May 2015 at 19:04
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pete_rallye

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Oh, and power wise I'd expect around 190ish with a remap. Although others have seen over 200 with the similar Kent PT81's.

Pocketed pistons are £100 via Bridgecraft engineering.

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Posted 30th May 2015 at 19:14
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I take it all the extra power is at the top of the Rev range?

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Posted 30th May 2015 at 20:25
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pete_rallye

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Not necessarily, Piper says they 'work' from 2000-7500 which isn't too dissimilar to the standard cams but you'll have more pull across the whole rev range and they will pull for a touch longer. Standard cams start to ease off around 6800-7000, these will go a bit longer. They shouldn't affect low down power at all really but they might come on cam a touch later.

Its been about 10 years since I ran 285h's, my engine made 199bhp with Jenvey 45's also but I haven't used these, they came in a head I bought.

There not a rally or race cam, they are designed to be driven on the road, so expect low down driveability to be barely affected.

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Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 1
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Lap of the 'ring
Posted 30th May 2015 at 21:08
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Ben_W

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Pete,

My mate Luke (Hes on here as SCTyres) will have these. His bottom end just gave up the other day so is rebuilding. Already running TBs so these will go nicely with his engine.

He will be in touch with you on Monday. Can you PM me a contact number please Pete?

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Posted 30th May 2015 at 21:09
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pete_rallye

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Ben you're inbox is full, drop us a pm when you've emptied it!

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Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 1
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Posted 30th May 2015 at 21:13
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Ben_W

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Pete, emptied!!!

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Posted 30th May 2015 at 21:14
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pete_rallye

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Not had any payment for these yet so now back up for sale.

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Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 1
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Lap of the 'ring
Posted 10th Jun 2015 at 22:42
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Day666

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pete_rallye wrote:
Deposit now taken for these.



Strange Pete ....would of thought they would of been biting your hand off !!!!!
Thought they had sold & a deposit was taken ?

Did they end up having the springs Pete ?
Posted 16th Jun 2015 at 21:29
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pete_rallye

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Bens mate seems to be having cash flow and engine issues unfortunately so he wasn't able to buy them, although he wanted them. They are now off to Australia, and yes springs have sold as well.

I do have another set of springs that were used with 12mm lift cams (still got the cams too!) which I'd be happy to sell.

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Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 1
Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 2
Lap of the 'ring
Posted 16th Jun 2015 at 21:34
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Day666

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pete_rallye wrote:
Bens mate seems to be having cash flow and engine issues unfortunately so he wasn't able to buy them, although he wanted them. They are now off to Australia, and yes springs have sold as well.

I do have another set of springs that were used with 12mm lift cams (still got the cams too!) which I'd be happy to sell.


Pete if your in No rush to sell the cams & other springs ...I may take you up on them ?
It won't be until my spare engine build starts possible December ?????

Everybody seems to be having Women or cash flow probs I'm speaking to in work & some have both LOL
Posted 16th Jun 2015 at 21:40
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pete_rallye

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I'm starting another thread for the other cams and springs, need to free up some cash fairly quickly so can't really hang on until December unfortunately.

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Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 1
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Lap of the 'ring
Posted 16th Jun 2015 at 21:41
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Day666

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pete_rallye wrote:
I'm starting another thread for the other cams and springs, need to free up some cash fairly quickly so can't really hang on until December unfortunately.


Totally understand Pete ?
Posted 16th Jun 2015 at 21:42
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pete_rallye

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Dunno whats going on here but the guy in Oz now wants the springs but not the cams. Not sure I want to split but currently the cams only are back up for sale.

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Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 1
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Lap of the 'ring
Posted 16th Jun 2015 at 23:58
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