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 turboblack
Junior User  Location: San Lorenzo Isontino Registered: 04 Mar 2010 Posts: 84 Status: Offline |
Post #1
As per title. What the better choice? Short inlet befor bodies or long one?________________________________________ 306cab 2.0 16v:Wossner 12:1 45mm Jenvey Piper 285H 6 Gearbox + Quaife LSD 406 Brembo D2 Suspension E-tech Strut Brace Emerald K6 Ecu |
 Posted 10th May 2015 at 02:30
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #2
long, within reason.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 10th May 2015 at 05:51
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turboblack
Junior User Location: San Lorenzo Isontino Registered: 04 Mar 2010 Posts: 84 Status: Offline |
Post #3
Mmm, because with a short inlet I'll get more space for the airbox liters. Now with twm induction manifold my piper airbox are so close to the radiator.________________________________________ 306cab 2.0 16v:Wossner 12:1 45mm Jenvey Piper 285H 6 Gearbox + Quaife LSD 406 Brembo D2 Suspension E-tech Strut Brace Emerald K6 Ecu |
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Posted 10th May 2015 at 10:45
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #4
I have longer inlet and plenty of space still.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 10th May 2015 at 13:00
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Day666
Seasoned Pro  Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,209 Status: Offline |
Post #5
welshpug! wrote: I have longer inlet and plenty of space still. What trumpet size will I get away with Mei on my 6 ?....please be 100% sure because They arn't cheap ? They will be Satchell ...same as inlet & yours ??? Do you have more room than a 6 |
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Posted 20th May 2015 at 07:28
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #6
I have 90mm trumpets, but shorter bodies, could probably fit longer.check the pics on my thread ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 20th May 2015 at 08:05
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,209 Status: Offline |
Post #7
welshpug! wrote: I have 90mm trumpets, but shorter bodies, could probably fit longer. check the pics on my thread Thought all Jenvey bodies were same length Mei ? |
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Posted 20th May 2015 at 12:14
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #8
nope, check the website  ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 20th May 2015 at 10:16
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,209 Status: Offline |
Post #9
welshpug! wrote: nope, check the website How much Difference in length ??? Mine are 900 something the shortest they do ? |
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Posted 20th May 2015 at 12:34
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #10
91mm you mean !they do shorter than that but yes thats what I have and with 90mm trumpets, a really deep air filter flat backplate and weber pico injectors, if you use gti6 full size injectors you need a stepped backplate and a shorter filter. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 20th May 2015 at 13:44
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,209 Status: Offline |
Post #11
welshpug! wrote: 91mm you mean ! they do shorter than that but yes thats what I have and with 90mm trumpets, a really deep air filter flat backplate and weber pico injectors, if you use gti6 full size injectors you need a stepped backplate and a shorter filter. Yes 91.mm Typo error ... Surly its worth going stepped back plate & shorter air filter ...arnt the injectors crazy money to buy & I do really want x8 matching ? Any disadvantage using x8 old 6 injectors??? I've got someone close to me who's prepaired to check & clean them on a machine ???? I've got two matching Fuel rails coming tomorrow & I'm thinking of running them both from a separate 3 bar fixed fuel regulator ??? Not planning using stnd 6 rail now !!! What model stepped back plate there are loads & loads  What thickness & size Mei ? |
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Posted 20th May 2015 at 13:59
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #12
you dont need separate FPR's, there's no needa set of matching injectors makes mapping a little easier but the ones I have are very close in flow to the gti6 ones. I use the standard fuel rail injectors and fpr, the front rail is fed from the tank and the return goes to the standard rail, any other setup is just wasting money. there's only one stepped backplate. Who do you know that can clean injectors? I need to get a few sets checked as one of mine was duff. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 20th May 2015 at 14:44
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,209 Status: Offline |
Post #13
welshpug! wrote: you dont need separate FPR's, there's no need a set of matching injectors makes mapping a little easier but the ones I have are very close in flow to the gti6 ones. I use the standard fuel rail injectors and fpr, the front rail is fed from the tank and the return goes to the standard rail, any other setup is just wasting money. there's only one stepped backplate. Who do you know that can clean injectors? I need to get a few sets checked as one of mine was duff. How many you got need checking & cleaning ? I'm paying nothing for these fuel rails ....just need FPR & bingo x |
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Posted 20th May 2015 at 15:07
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #14
8 or 12  ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 20th May 2015 at 15:42
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
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  20140905_171609 by WELSHPUG, on Flickr________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 20th May 2015 at 15:53
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turboblack
Junior User Location: San Lorenzo Isontino Registered: 04 Mar 2010 Posts: 84 Status: Offline |
Post #16
After tinypic upload the images I'll post the pic's of what I'll mean.________________________________________ 306cab 2.0 16v:Wossner 12:1 45mm Jenvey Piper 285H 6 Gearbox + Quaife LSD 406 Brembo D2 Suspension E-tech Strut Brace Emerald K6 Ecu |
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Posted 20th May 2015 at 17:54
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turboblack
Junior User Location: San Lorenzo Isontino Registered: 04 Mar 2010 Posts: 84 Status: Offline |
Post #17
From head:-Inlet manifold  -Jenvey's  -Airbox  -Radiator clearance  -General view for inclination angle  ________________________________________ 306cab 2.0 16v:Wossner 12:1 45mm Jenvey Piper 285H 6 Gearbox + Quaife LSD 406 Brembo D2 Suspension E-tech Strut Brace Emerald K6 Ecu |
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Posted 20th May 2015 at 18:03
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,209 Status: Offline |
Post #18
welshpug! wrote: 8 or 12 Ok well I'll have 8 to test !!!! I'll speak to him tomorrow Mei  |
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Posted 20th May 2015 at 18:22
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turboblack
Junior User Location: San Lorenzo Isontino Registered: 04 Mar 2010 Posts: 84 Status: Offline |
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After see that pics what i'll can change to get better situation?________________________________________ 306cab 2.0 16v:Wossner 12:1 45mm Jenvey Piper 285H 6 Gearbox + Quaife LSD 406 Brembo D2 Suspension E-tech Strut Brace Emerald K6 Ecu |
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Posted 22nd May 2015 at 18:03
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #20
the manifold________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 23rd May 2015 at 10:31
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rallyeash
Seasoned Pro  Location: Devizes Registered: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,424 Status: Offline |
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Think mine are 300mm from head to butterfly________________________________________ 230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys Project thread here309 3dr K20 Type R |
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Posted 23rd May 2015 at 10:54
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,209 Status: Offline |
Post #22
Blimey Mei you got loads of room hope mine has loads like that ? |
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Posted 23rd May 2015 at 11:14
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turboblack
Junior User Location: San Lorenzo Isontino Registered: 04 Mar 2010 Posts: 84 Status: Offline |
Post #23
What manifold are best way to go? With this setup the engine runs 194 hp and 204 nm. Full specs here http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=127999 ________________________________________ 306cab 2.0 16v:Wossner 12:1 45mm Jenvey Piper 285H 6 Gearbox + Quaife LSD 406 Brembo D2 Suspension E-tech Strut Brace Emerald K6 Ecu |
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Posted 24th May 2015 at 13:21
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Day666
Seasoned Pro Location: Bristol Registered: 20 Apr 2013 Posts: 5,209 Status: Offline |
Post #24
turboblack wrote: What manifold are best way to go? With this setup the engine runs 194 hp and 204 nm. Full specs here http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=127999 I would love 194 ...but I don't have cams & headflowed as you .....I'm hoping to get more Torque with my 8 injector set up & a great map ?...:seeing as I've not stripped & taken much weight off my car ..that would help loads for track days In 8 months time hopefully I'll have a 2.1-2.2 Sandy Brown engine to fit all my stuff now !!!!! Welshpugs proven & others that Satchell inlets are bloody hard to beat if set up correct ? That's what Mei has & I've copied him  |
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Posted 24th May 2015 at 13:48
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #25
my head is standard.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 24th May 2015 at 13:48
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