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Day666

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Post #101
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miles wrote:
Pull, I tend to use the aftermarket screw on ones thou, Neater


Just been told by Sandy not to put the ATS into filter backplate ?
Said just place it & clip it outside in engine bay ?

Bloody tight to pull that out Miles !!!!


Another small problem is even with the stepped Jenvey back plate the Billet alloy jenvey fuel rail won't allow you to use stnd 6 injectors ??
The extension shaped spacers for the screws to hold the fuel rail & injectors in are still hitting the Carbon stepped back plate & forcing the x4 screws that hold the rail on not to line up ...your not able to line screw holes up if you don't use spacers not a problem but you really do need spacers !!!!

Two ways of getting round this ???;.....not using Very long shaped spacers as in the middle of the pic & just the long screws bit of a bodge really .....or buying correct (short) 330cc new injectors for just the jenvey Rail Thumbs up

Just had another look another way ....file down shaped alloy spacers in the middle of the pic lots to miss Carbon backplate !!!!Thumbs up
Longer bolts on left & middle long spacers are for use with 6 long injectors !!!
Short screws on right are for use with short stnd injectors ....note ....I used one & not missing LOL

I'll get around it somehow Whistle

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Posted 30th May 2015 at 17:41
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Post #102
After getting my old injectors cleaned to use in the inlet manifold & having to Buy x4 new Pico 330cc injectors for the Bodie rail because I found out 91mm bodies can't be used with a stepped backplate as behind the injector is shorter & short injectors have to be used Thumbs up
The Car just sounds & feels so much better with the injectors cleaned & one was down 15% on flow !!!

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Posted 1st Jun 2015 at 23:23
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Post #103
Was told today to use 60mm not 90mm because my engines stnd .....but we are going to map trying both ?

80mm gap between Radiator and the end of the filter Thumbs up
40mm gap between the end of the Trumpet & the inside of the filter ...more tha enough Thumbs up

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Posted 1st Jun 2015 at 23:26
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Post #104
Looking nice Thumbs up

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Posted 1st Jun 2015 at 23:24
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Post #105
been mapped yet?

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Posted 1st Jun 2015 at 23:27
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Post #106
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Looking nice Thumbs up


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Mei / Miles & others Big Thank you Love

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Posted 1st Jun 2015 at 23:30
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Post #107
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been mapped yet?


Thursday by guess who LOL
Posted 1st Jun 2015 at 23:29
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Post #108
Now battery is in the boot ....had some space & had a bit of an idea modified the old ECU box to fit DTA & put Mocal Catch tank on the side & new Sandy fan / fuel pump relay & fuses in front ..
Now I can run my shift light into dash easy Thumbs up

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Posted 1st Jun 2015 at 23:39
welshpug!

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Post #109
excellent, will be interesting to see which trumpets work best

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Posted 1st Jun 2015 at 23:40
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Post #110
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excellent, will be interesting to see which trumpets work best


Got 60 & 90 ...only problem is if I fit 90s I only have 20mm from end of trumpet to inside of filter ????
Sandy wants to try them both though who am I to say NO Whistle

40s were out of stock until Monday sadly Thumbs down

I'm hoping 60s Mei ?
Posted 1st Jun 2015 at 23:56
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Post #111
60's will almost certainly give you more top end, but the 90's will probably give better midrange, which could make for a nicer driving car. It'll definitely be interesting to see the difference it makes. Make sure you get some graphs!

Theres a bit of info on different manifold lengths here- http://www.billzilla.org/engvariable.html

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Posted 2nd Jun 2015 at 00:01
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Post #112
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60's will almost certainly give you more top end, but the 90's will probably give better midrange, which could make for a nicer driving car. It'll definitely be interesting to see the difference it makes. Make sure you get some graphs!

Theres a bit of info on different manifold lengths here- http://www.billzilla.org/engvariable.html


Thanks Pete will do Thumbs up
Great info ...thank you
Posted 2nd Jun 2015 at 00:07
welshpug!

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Post #113
excellent, will be interesting to see which trumpets work best

dont forget that the manifold is longer pete, may well end up on 60's for better results all over, unfortunately none of the rollers sandy uses that I know have any way to record any readings.

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Posted 2nd Jun 2015 at 02:34
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Post #114
Certainly onmy dads westfield (running jenveys) the 90mm provided far more torque. lol a is fantastic, I'm mega jealous!
Posted 2nd Jun 2015 at 11:04
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Post #115
far too many variables to say offhsnd that 90 mm will suit many engines.

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Posted 2nd Jun 2015 at 11:43
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Yep ...lets just wait & see Whistle

I'm not expecting Miricles LOL
Posted 2nd Jun 2015 at 12:56
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Post #117
Went down on a trailer & came back on a trailer amazing !!!!!!
Sandy found one of my new cleaned 6 injectors was playing up ...so quick swap & off he went again !!!!

60s used & were better for my car all round as 90s gave no increase & lost a small bit of power in certain places on my Stnd Engine .
All I can say is OMG !!!!!!!!!
It feels a totally diff car & Sandy Browns a bloody Genius & I'm not saying that lightly Crazy ...

My DZO3gs arnt far off done & Sandy used Tyre spray to try & get it to grip to get a end BHP figure but just couldn't get it to grip 100% ...
But it Wasent about the BHP figure for me on a stnd engine & I'm not just saying that ....it was about drivability & response of throttle & THAT sound was unreal ....
8 injectors blended & one very happy man !!!
Sandy had a cheeky smile on his face when he finished ....but after I got it home NOTHING short of OMG when I drove her .....
It shouldn't be possible to inpriive & do this after all it's only a stnd engine with Bodies / ECU & Sachell inlet with x8 injectors ..Whistle
Believe the hype Guys he's the MAN !!!!
See you at FCS This Sat Thumbs up

PS a big thank you must go out to Nigel @ Jenvey & Dave @ Satchell & The man himself Sandy Brown for all your Help & amazing products & Knowlege & putting a BIG Smile on this Face ...Thumbs up
Posted 5th Jun 2015 at 22:59
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Post #118
Pleased for you buddy you MUST get a video up of this Smile

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Posted 5th Jun 2015 at 09:54
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Post #119
I'll have to come and have a look on saturday. Smile

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Posted 5th Jun 2015 at 12:10
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Post #120
Glad it all went well. Should be compulsory to stick up videos when you have throttle bodies! Smile

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Posted 5th Jun 2015 at 12:36
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Post #121
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Glad it all went well. Should be compulsory to stick up videos when you have throttle bodies! Smile


I so should have taken (bought a video camera) when the car was on the rollers, thing is you need to capture the sound more than anything which is difficult on a phone or cheap camcorder as it will compress the audio too much.
Posted 5th Jun 2015 at 12:54
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Post #122
Please do come & have a look & a chat !!!
Because I have so much track time I won't have to rush a per normal & hope to say hello & put faces to names Thumbs up

I left Sandy to it cause it was bloody loud even with Eardefenders on ...
All I can say is he's after Usable Power not end figures .
He's just given me a car that just pulls & pulls right through all the range !
Can't wait to get it on the Track tomorrow & thanks guys Thumbs up
Posted 5th Jun 2015 at 14:08
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Just keep it right side up

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Posted 5th Jun 2015 at 22:18
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So i will listen out for you on track then Damien.
Posted 5th Jun 2015 at 22:21
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Post #125
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Just keep it right side up


I so hope so Miles Whistle ...no roll cage Crazy
Posted 5th Jun 2015 at 22:49

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