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Author Subject: Alloy sump guard
Lookebe

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Post #1
I am currently trying to get an alloy sump guard made to replace the existing undertray.

If anyone is interested in one I could enquire about a group buy, this would reduce the cost of having these made.

If anybody is interested could they please add there name here so I can get an idea of numbers.

Posted 24th Apr 2015 at 18:41
armzsc6

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Lower strut brace does the same job, anything hits that before the sump as it's lower

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Posted 24th Apr 2015 at 18:55
Lookebe

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Post #3
Thanks.

Does anybody on here make them?
Posted 24th Apr 2015 at 19:02
jon boy

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Post #4
Philipm made some a while ago but they are a bit sort after.

If you have a look in the wanted section you can see a few people after them.

http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=163194
Posted 24th Apr 2015 at 19:14
welshpug!

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armzs16 wrote:
Lower strut brace does the same job, anything hits that before the sump as it's lower


not really as its behind the sump and offers no protection whatsoever.

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Posted 24th Apr 2015 at 19:21
armzsc6

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welshpug! wrote:
armzs16 wrote:
Lower strut brace does the same job, anything hits that before the sump as it's lower


not really as its behind the sump and offers no protection whatsoever.


http://s386.photobucket.com/user/aaron6pug/media/20140913_101841.jpg.html

Yes it's behind most of it but it's considerably lower than the lowest part of the sump so what is going to hit first? Unless you plan on using it as a rally car it will do the job. Anything your likely to hit in the road will hit it rather than the sump unless you drive into a f**k of big tree stump in which case your an idiot anyway.... Aaron6 who makes these has the same one on his car which is lower than mine and it scrapes over large bumps instead of his sump.

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Posted 24th Apr 2015 at 19:44
aaron6

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Post #7
This is true. LOL

When my car was too low, on a crowned road the brace would hit the deck. I swear that in some cases if it were not there I would have definitely hit the sump.

I wouldn't call it a guard but it definitely helped against the road. LOL

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Posted 24th Apr 2015 at 19:50
armzsc6

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Then I look at Danny's phase 1 on 60mm front springs and 195/45/15 tyres and the sump has been warn away around the drain key including wearing Half the bung away nearly lol. Would have happened to yours if it weren't for the brace Big grin

Not sure how much is down to the lowness of the car and how much it's the fat bloke in the drivers seat LOL

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Posted 24th Apr 2015 at 20:29
adam b

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Post #9
Main issue is that anything half strong will bend / snap the cross member and destroy the loom.
You need to weld in a fair bit of bracing. I'm adapting a 6mm ally one from a 205

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Posted 24th Apr 2015 at 20:54
aaron6

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I would say alloy plate is the way forward. It's easy to work and light. What might I ask is the reason you want one? You building a rally car or something?

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Posted 24th Apr 2015 at 21:44
Cjwatson27

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I was thinking of making one due to hearing the sump on the v6 is abit vunerable

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Posted 24th Apr 2015 at 21:46
midlife

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I found these sizes ages ago



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Posted 25th Apr 2015 at 00:38
Lookebe

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The original undertray was about buggered which is the main reason really but I'll be using it for hill climbing, sprints and road rallying as well.

My first event will be barbon manor hill climb on 13th June.
Posted 27th Apr 2015 at 22:05
adam b

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Kevlar might be better suited then. My alloy one weighs s**t loads!

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Posted 27th Apr 2015 at 22:38
welshpug!

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road rallying a V6 306? BRAVE MAN!

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Posted 27th Apr 2015 at 22:39
Lookebe

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No mines not the v6, just standard.

How much do you think it weighs roughly?
Posted 27th Apr 2015 at 22:48
yippeekayay

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cant believe the lower strut brace comnents... lol.. sump guard will take the whack of competion offs or jumps a lower strut brace... lmfao. anyone hitting a tree stump.. theres a bell end right there.

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Posted 27th Apr 2015 at 23:39
aaron6

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That's not quite what was said now was it...
We merely said that the ones I've knocked take a whack on the road well. And to be fair, if it wasn't there I'd have most likely hit my sump. It light banter... Wink

No one would use a lower strut to act as sump guard when actually rallying. But as said above, the ally ones will still be very heavy so would be worth looking at an alternative material.

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Posted 28th Apr 2015 at 13:42
armzsc6

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yippeekayay wrote:
cant believe the lower strut brace comnents... lol.. sump guard will take the whack of competion offs or jumps a lower strut brace... lmfao. anyone hitting a tree stump.. theres a bell end right there.


"Unless your planning to use it as a rally car" I said..... Did I say it's the same thing as a full rally spec sump guard? No just said for most it would do the job as it's lower and most things will hit first. "Bell end...."

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Posted 28th Apr 2015 at 14:03
welshpug!

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Post #20
doesnt matter if its lower, its behind the sump and offer no protection to it.

the subframe is lower than the sump, but that doesnt offer any protection to the sump either.

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Posted 28th Apr 2015 at 14:06
aaron6

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Im pretty sure that my brace hit the floor. It got scuffed and everything. LOL

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Posted 28th Apr 2015 at 18:22
aaron6

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Post #22
This piccy seems to show the sump below the subframe and the brace, although just behind the sump, 10mm lower.

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Posted 28th Apr 2015 at 18:24

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