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my3AWDgst

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I made coilovers from Bilstein B6's for my 405 but I ran in to a problem with shock just being too long. When desired ride height is selected shaft of the shock is at the lowest point which creates no shock rebound. Anyhow I've been looking in to Ebay brand coilovers V-Maxx,TA-Technix,Max Track and so on. Have any of you had any experience with these coilovers?
I don't track my MI16 at all I just drive it on the weekends at times.

Thank you.

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Posted 3rd Apr 2015 at 08:54
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Post #2
405's dont take too well to lowering, if its just road driving I would leave it 100% stock, its a fantastic chassis.

never heard of x-brand, the other names mentioned are ones I cant believe can actually be sold as fit for purpose.

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Posted 3rd Apr 2015 at 23:02
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my3AWDgst

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Factory ride height is just terrible on US 405's and one foot wheel gap just don't look right with aftermarket wheels. I was looking at 306 coilovers.

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90 405 Sport Wagon 306 GTI 6 swapped.
89 405 MI16 ECMlink,SD,E85 swapped.
89 405 MI16 (standard)
91 405 MI16 (Sorento Green)
91 405 MI16 parts car.
91 405 Sport Wagon.
99 AWD Spyder.
98 AWD Spyder
2010 Genesis coupe track edition.
Posted 3rd Apr 2015 at 09:02
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allanallen

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The bodies in the picture look very long! Are they 405 b6 bodies? Maybe you could get proper 205 bilstien adjustable platform bodies and use them with your inserts?

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Posted 3rd Apr 2015 at 15:34
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welshpug!

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405 springs generally are very long, thats why they ride so well I think.

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Posted 3rd Apr 2015 at 15:47
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allanallen

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My brothers rides pretty well and that's quite low, think it's on 306 eibachs

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Posted 3rd Apr 2015 at 15:48
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adam b

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They don't look like b6 in the photo.

B8 is the same as b6 but with a shorter shaft. Then use shorter springs, maybe a helper too

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Posted 3rd Apr 2015 at 18:42
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my3AWDgst

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Yes those are 405 B6's they also have hardness adjustable screw on the bottom. Have any of you used those Ebay coilovers? At this point I just may order a set and give it a try.

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Savo Stanivukovic
90 405 Sport Wagon 306 GTI 6 swapped.
89 405 MI16 ECMlink,SD,E85 swapped.
89 405 MI16 (standard)
91 405 MI16 (Sorento Green)
91 405 MI16 parts car.
91 405 Sport Wagon.
99 AWD Spyder.
98 AWD Spyder
2010 Genesis coupe track edition.
Posted 3rd Apr 2015 at 21:15
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welshpug!

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Post #9
B6 aren't adjustable, its probably an inverted damper and the bottom of the piston shaft you can see.


do you have a picture of your ride height and the distance from jacking point to the road?

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Posted 3rd Apr 2015 at 21:30
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my3AWDgst

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Post #10
Problem is not my ride height. Have you read my original post? I just need input if any of those coilovers that I listed above have been used before by any of the members and I would appreciate any experience shared.

There is adjustment screw on the bottom of the shock just like old school Koni's.

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Savo Stanivukovic
90 405 Sport Wagon 306 GTI 6 swapped.
89 405 MI16 ECMlink,SD,E85 swapped.
89 405 MI16 (standard)
91 405 MI16 (Sorento Green)
91 405 MI16 parts car.
91 405 Sport Wagon.
99 AWD Spyder.
98 AWD Spyder
2010 Genesis coupe track edition.
Posted 3rd Apr 2015 at 22:47
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yes, see my first reply...


your problem IS the ride height.

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Posted 3rd Apr 2015 at 23:03
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allanallen

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Post #12
If they're adjustable they're not b6s as said.

All the dampers you mention in your first post will fit but they're cheap disposable crap IMO. The dampers you have must be decent quality as they're inverted, I'd look at using them personally.

I'm fairly certain that no one on this forum has fitted any of the coilovers you mention on a 405, its a 306 forum and there's only a couple of us on here that have had anything to do with 405s!

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Posted 4th Apr 2015 at 19:44
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I have looked after a 405 for 13 years, albeit a diesel estate LOL

got an mi16 kicking about too.


they have quite long springs as standard, and dont suit extreme lowering.

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Posted 4th Apr 2015 at 20:23
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my3AWDgst

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allanallen wrote:
If they're adjustable they're not b6s as said.

All the dampers you mention in your first post will fit but they're cheap disposable crap IMO. The dampers you have must be decent quality as they're inverted, I'd look at using them personally.

I'm fairly certain that no one on this forum has fitted any of the coilovers you mention on a 405, its a 306 forum and there's only a couple of us on here that have had anything to do with 405s!


Yes I know this is 306 forum as I did purchase 306 GTI-6 drive train for my 405 Wagon and here in US we have no parts or resources so I posted it here to try to get as much information as I can. From what I have read 306 front coilovers fit 405's,being a newer then 405 it makes it lot easier to fined aftermarket parts.

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Savo Stanivukovic
90 405 Sport Wagon 306 GTI 6 swapped.
89 405 MI16 ECMlink,SD,E85 swapped.
89 405 MI16 (standard)
91 405 MI16 (Sorento Green)
91 405 MI16 parts car.
91 405 Sport Wagon.
99 AWD Spyder.
98 AWD Spyder
2010 Genesis coupe track edition.
Posted 4th Apr 2015 at 22:23
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my3AWDgst

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welshpug! wrote:
I have looked after a 405 for 13 years, albeit a diesel estate LOL

got an mi16 kicking about too.


they have quite long springs as standard, and dont suit extreme lowering.


Yes I'm very well aware of it however with proper suspension modifications it can be extremely low. I'm not trying to go extremely low here at all it's just with lowering springs it was still bit too heigh for my taste and now if I could go back I would just purchase AVO's.
I end up getting those Billi's for a good price but body of it end up just being too long.

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Savo Stanivukovic
90 405 Sport Wagon 306 GTI 6 swapped.
89 405 MI16 ECMlink,SD,E85 swapped.
89 405 MI16 (standard)
91 405 MI16 (Sorento Green)
91 405 MI16 parts car.
91 405 Sport Wagon.
99 AWD Spyder.
98 AWD Spyder
2010 Genesis coupe track edition.
Posted 4th Apr 2015 at 22:32
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my3AWDgst

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Here is very recent picture of it.

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Savo Stanivukovic
90 405 Sport Wagon 306 GTI 6 swapped.
89 405 MI16 ECMlink,SD,E85 swapped.
89 405 MI16 (standard)
91 405 MI16 (Sorento Green)
91 405 MI16 parts car.
91 405 Sport Wagon.
99 AWD Spyder.
98 AWD Spyder
2010 Genesis coupe track edition.
Posted 4th Apr 2015 at 22:33
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my3AWDgst

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This one has been taken the same day.And yes we did get those horrible looking front bumpers. I was lucky enough to fined new set of Brueck US spec body kit here in US.

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Savo Stanivukovic
90 405 Sport Wagon 306 GTI 6 swapped.
89 405 MI16 ECMlink,SD,E85 swapped.
89 405 MI16 (standard)
91 405 MI16 (Sorento Green)
91 405 MI16 parts car.
91 405 Sport Wagon.
99 AWD Spyder.
98 AWD Spyder
2010 Genesis coupe track edition.
Posted 4th Apr 2015 at 22:36
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Think I'm missing the point hereDoh
That looks too low for UK roads, never mind those p**s poor things that maskarade as roads in the statesDunno

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I wouldn't waste any money on cheap coilovers! You get exactly that - CHEAP COIL OVERS. Get some new std shocks and slap on some eibach springs
Posted 5th Apr 2015 at 00:05
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that is not low, that is f**king low Laugh my ass off

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Posted 5th Apr 2015 at 07:31
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allanallen

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Standard shocks with eibachs will raise that, it's pretty low!

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Posted 5th Apr 2015 at 07:30
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my3AWDgst

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Believe me this is far from low. I'm looking at 405 AVO's or 306 KW's and 306 GAZ. I would love to get KW's but I've read that rear shocks out of 306 can't fit 405 :-(

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Savo Stanivukovic
90 405 Sport Wagon 306 GTI 6 swapped.
89 405 MI16 ECMlink,SD,E85 swapped.
89 405 MI16 (standard)
91 405 MI16 (Sorento Green)
91 405 MI16 parts car.
91 405 Sport Wagon.
99 AWD Spyder.
98 AWD Spyder
2010 Genesis coupe track edition.
Posted 7th Apr 2015 at 08:37
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my3AWDgst

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Post #23
I end up ordering AVO's from Spoox Motorsport.

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Savo Stanivukovic
90 405 Sport Wagon 306 GTI 6 swapped.
89 405 MI16 ECMlink,SD,E85 swapped.
89 405 MI16 (standard)
91 405 MI16 (Sorento Green)
91 405 MI16 parts car.
91 405 Sport Wagon.
99 AWD Spyder.
98 AWD Spyder
2010 Genesis coupe track edition.
Posted 9th Apr 2015 at 04:05
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allanallen

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Double dohh!

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Posted 9th Apr 2015 at 08:54
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welshpug!

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yep :/

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Posted 9th Apr 2015 at 09:26
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