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Author Subject: Anyone installed a Subwoofer upfront in a 6?
MisterGTR

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Have been chatting to Iain at Soundwerks about getting speakers and sub for my 6. I'm starting to like her lots and will probably keep her a while, so thought i'd get the sounds sorted.

I don't want anything that it going to take up too much space or ruin the car in terms of practicality. Eg i don't want to lose half the boot. I will need that for carrying spares up to Knockhill!

So far i've got the amp picked from JL HD range which will fit under the passenger seat, two ways in the doors and A pillar, but then the issue is the sub.

The only decent sub that works well in a small enclosure is the JL 10" TW3. We could raise the boot level but i'm not keen on that. So he's going to look at fitting up behind the front passenger side dash. I need to take my car in for him to strip it down and have a look.

So i thought i'd ask if there is much space behind or up in there. It only requires about 10cm of depth. Putting the sub up front is the ideal place for it in a car so i'd be quite happy with it going in there.

Now that i've typed that i realise this will have zero value to anyone else here but it's another boring late one at work........

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Posted 9th Feb 2015 at 18:24
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Be interested in seeing how this goes. Was looking into an active sub that fits under the front seat for mine. Plenty of them out there. Not looking for massive power, just a bit better lower range produced by something other than door mounted/rattling speakers

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Posted 9th Feb 2015 at 18:49
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Better off sticking with the boot in my opinion

Posted 9th Feb 2015 at 18:53
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Not an awful lot of space there as far as i can tell, that's where the blower motor and housing sit.

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Posted 9th Feb 2015 at 20:01
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barrym wrote:
Be interested in seeing how this goes. Was looking into an active sub that fits under the front seat for mine. Plenty of them out there. Not looking for massive power, just a bit better lower range produced by something other than door mounted/rattling speakers


Will post up on my thread when it's going in. I'm exactly the same hence going for mid range stuff rather than trying to do a loud SQ car. The Class AB amp alone would be more than the cost of all the bits i'm having go in. The plan is to put the amp under the passenger seat, but i'll ask if sub can go there and amp elsewhere.


bigbadbowen wrote:
Better off sticking with the boot in my opinion



It's a last resort as there are slight time alignment/echo issues and mostly in terms of practicality i want to be able to dump wheels and tools in the boot. Trying to keep it looking relatively low keyl.

prism7guy wrote:
Not an awful lot of space there as far as i can tell, that's where the blower motor and housing sit.


Thanks. Will have a look through some of the photos on here for some clues as to what can be done. And pass on to Iain.

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Posted 9th Feb 2015 at 20:33
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How about a good set a 3 comps in the rear shelf ?
Posted 9th Feb 2015 at 21:21
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bigbadbowen wrote:
How about a good set a 3 comps in the rear shelf ?



LOL LOL Thumbs up

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Posted 9th Feb 2015 at 21:25
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Have you considered a pair of shallow-mount subwoofers in the rear parcel shelf? They almost certainly wouldn't fit in the OEM baskets but you might be able to leave the OEM grilles over them (unless you have a stealth shelf?), and then they'd be hidden from theives etc.

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Posted 9th Feb 2015 at 21:49
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RetroPug wrote:
Have you considered a pair of shallow-mount subwoofers in the rear parcel shelf? They almost certainly wouldn't fit in the OEM baskets but you might be able to leave the OEM grilles over them (unless you have a stealth shelf?), and then they'd be hidden from theives etc.


The shelf would just rattle its tits off. The subwoofer wants to be fixed to something secure and rattle free









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Posted 9th Feb 2015 at 21:53
MisterGTR

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RetroPug wrote:
Have you considered a pair of shallow-mount subwoofers in the rear parcel shelf? They almost certainly wouldn't fit in the OEM baskets but you might be able to leave the OEM grilles over them (unless you have a stealth shelf?), and then they'd be hidden from theives etc.


the parcel tray would have to be reinforced to such an extent that in an accident it would take your head off!!

If i can't put it up front or in the rear side pods, i'll have raise the floor of the boot. It will be totally hidden. That is a last resort option but not a terrible one because there is no hidden floor in the 6. i guess i could use the space not used for storage of tools etc. But securely so again in an accident they don't come flying through the car! One thing i noticed is the sound deading in my 6 was soaking. It'll all have to come out and be replaced. Hope there's no rust hidden there. Wet sound deadening is great for sound though!

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Posted 9th Feb 2015 at 21:55
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Lots of space to the left of the blower motor under the dash, although it might be where the glove box goes. There's loads of space there that my cage takes up.

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Posted 9th Feb 2015 at 21:58
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adam b wrote:
Lots of space to the left of the blower motor under the dash, although it might be where the glove box goes. There's loads of space there that my cage takes up.


Thanks Adam

I wonder if i should fit a new blower motor while they have the dash off? Service box time.......

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Posted 9th Feb 2015 at 22:01
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Why would you need to? Rarely go wrong.
Worth doing the heater matrix though. Dash off isn't too long once you've done it once.

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Posted 9th Feb 2015 at 22:27
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adam b wrote:
Why would you need to? Rarely go wrong.
Worth doing the heater matrix though. Dash off isn't too long once you've done it once.



Doh...that's the thing i meant!! Heater Matrix (repeat and don't forget!)

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Posted 9th Feb 2015 at 22:29
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There are two different versions, read up on which is right for aircon cars

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Posted 9th Feb 2015 at 22:38
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I've been toying with the idea a set of rainbow 3 way components in the rear shelf with some 2 ways up front ? Sound deadening is key to good sound from speakers in a 306
Posted 9th Feb 2015 at 22:45
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bigbadbowen wrote:
I've been toying with the idea a set of rainbow 3 way components in the rear shelf with some 2 ways up front ? Sound deadening is key to good sound from speakers in a 306


From my limited experience, get cheap rear fill speakers and quality fronts with the tweets in the a pillar firing across and not into the windscreen, with a good source, sub and amp.

I dont bother with rears but nice to have for rear passengers.

I'm having skinz sound deadening put in the doors and boot. And 6.5" speaker will be mounted in mdf collar.

To be honest when it comes to sound stuff, i tend to ask what the guys who do it for a living recommend because (if you trust them) they can put cheaper stuff together that works well, rather than putting mismatched more expensive gear together. Very much like the guys here who have worked out which tyres, suspension, etc work on the 6.

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Posted 9th Feb 2015 at 23:01
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adam b wrote:
There are two different versions, read up on which is right for aircon cars



Thanks again Adam.Thumbs up

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Posted 9th Feb 2015 at 23:02
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I have a pioneer dehp88 running the show and a brand new jl audi 300/4v2 to run the fronts just can't decide what go for up front and or what to do about some nice bass ? I'm getting on a bit and gone are the days of having heavy bass rolling out the car - I was thinking a good set of well amped 3 ways on the shelf would do the trick ?

I have the ability to run the head unit in tri mode and go active as well mind
Posted 9th Feb 2015 at 23:05
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bigbadbowen wrote:
I have a pioneer dehp88 running the show and a brand new jl audi 300/4v2 to run the fronts just can't decide what go for up front and or what to do about some nice bass ? I'm getting on a bit and gone are the days of having heavy bass rolling out the car - I was thinking a good set of well amped 3 ways on the shelf would do the trick ?

I have the ability to run the head unit in tri mode and go active as well mind



That's very nice HU. I can ask Ian for you? If you let me know a budget from where you're at i can pick his brains. He's very helpful like that. I also need to remember when i drop the car off to ask him how much it costs to retrim seats (for someone else on here - i'll guess at Luke lol)

But i'd never have the main sound coming from behind you. Your ears face forward Smile Also i don't think the shelf is rigid enough to be musical and tight. I'd save you money for good 2 ways up front. But again i don't know what suits your HU and amp. Hence i'll ask a man who will know or know someone who will have done a similar install. FWIW he talked me out of more expensive speakers today because it would have meant a much more expensive amp.


I have the PRS 80 and am going active off the HU. I don't know the details of the 88, but i like the idea of easy adjustability of going active. Oh and I always add a sub control because i like to metal, hip hop and lots of stuff in between which is produced very differently. So it's nice to dial it up and down to suit.

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Posted 9th Feb 2015 at 23:16
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bigbadbowen wrote:
I have a pioneer dehp88 running the show and a brand new jl audi 300/4v2 to run the fronts just can't decide what go for up front and or what to do about some nice bass ? I'm getting on a bit and gone are the days of having heavy bass rolling out the car - I was thinking a good set of well amped 3 ways on the shelf would do the trick ?

I have the ability to run the head unit in tri mode and go active as well mind


Still have that P88 headunit I sold you then? Miss that headunit!
Posted 9th Feb 2015 at 23:28
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ash j wrote:
bigbadbowen wrote:
I have a pioneer dehp88 running the show and a brand new jl audi 300/4v2 to run the fronts just can't decide what go for up front and or what to do about some nice bass ? I'm getting on a bit and gone are the days of having heavy bass rolling out the car - I was thinking a good set of well amped 3 ways on the shelf would do the trick ?

I have the ability to run the head unit in tri mode and go active as well mind


Still have that P88 headunit I sold you then? Miss that headunit!


Yup still got it Thumbs up
Posted 9th Feb 2015 at 23:51
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Trouble with the fronts is keep the stock grill covers means your very limited to the speaker you can have
Posted 9th Feb 2015 at 23:53
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bigbadbowen wrote:
Trouble with the fronts is keep the stock grill covers means your very limited to the speaker you can have


Not at all I've had audiobahn 6.5" components with Massive vented magnets on the front of my 6 with standard speaker grilles over but you do have to massively butcher the door and door card up.

As far as the front mounted sub I think unless you used a serious amount of sound deadening your whole dash will vibrate like a bas**rd really. Also if you have AC the heater box is larger and takes up a lot more room hence the tiny pathetic lower glove box that comes with AC models.

If you don't have AC There's a fair bit of room.

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Posted 10th Feb 2015 at 14:00
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Just put it in the boot.

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