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MisterGTR

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As it's getting warmer (well it feels like it) i'm starting to plan changing the steering rack, Track Red Ends and Drop Links i've picked up off here. Oh and the auxillary belt stuff from Rich too. And get new bushes (crap forgot about them) and wishbones (forgot about them too!) And i'm sure other stuff (i'll need to check the list from that other thread again!)

Question i have is that should i do it all at the same time? Or would it better to do it bit by bit (i.e drop links, then steering rack, then trackrod ends the struts or whatever, so that the geometry is maintained to an extent. Or does it not matter and i'm going to have to have the alignment done anyway?

My concern is that i have a knack of taking the wrong course of action (i'm sure you guys are well away by now!) so want to try and minimise the potential for comedic catastrophe.

And yeah i'm doing a boring Whole Time Equivalent report at work (i don't know anybody who talks WTE in real life) for regulators so this seemed like a good distraction. For me at least.

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Posted 27th Jan 2015 at 15:26
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Did this myself last year. Replaced everything on the front suspension apart from the swivel hub, wheel flange and ARB. Didn't touch the rack though.

As I was changing the front coilovers I decided to do the top mounts and wheel bearings at the same time. My theory was that the wheel bearings are the hardest job of the lot to do so might as well do them while everything was apart. You will need to take the hubs to somewhere that has a hydraulic press though.

Change everything at once mate then get the car on a proper 4 wheel laser aligner. Only the tracking is adjustable but will line the fronts up properly with the rears.

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Posted 27th Jan 2015 at 15:40
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Did this myself last year. Replaced everything on the front suspension apart from the swivel hub, wheel flange and ARB. Didn't touch the rack though.

As I was changing the front coilovers I decided to do the top mounts and wheel bearings at the same time. My theory was that the wheel bearings are the hardest job of the lot to do so might as well do them while everything was apart. You will need to take the hubs to somewhere that has a hydraulic press though.

Change everything at once mate then get the car on a proper 4 wheel laser aligner. Only the tracking is adjustable but will line the fronts up properly with the rears.


Thanks Barry.

Damn i was hoping someone would let me chicken out of taking it all apart and do it the piece-meal way LOL

Thanks for the heads up on the wheel bearings. I never thought about that. Thumbs up

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Posted 27th Jan 2015 at 15:49
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I did the whole lot on my own over 2 days. Half a day to take it all apart then took the hubs to a transmission specialist to get the wheel bearings changed. Picked them up the next morning and had it all back together by mid-afternoon.

As I was doing it all solo I bought myself a 240Volt impact gun to make sure I could get the driveshaft nuts off. £40 well invested as it rattled them off in 2 seconds flat but if you have someone who can stand on the brake pedal a good 1/2 inch breaker bar should do the trick.

I had however read some horror stories of people needing scaffold poles on breaker bars etc to undo them, and as this is my daily driver I needed to just get the job done first time. It also made undoing some of the larger suspension bolts a piece of cake.

Remember to factor in the cost of new fasteners. Roughly £50 from Pug

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Posted 27th Jan 2015 at 16:20
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Actually that £50 included 2 pairs of top and bottom rear shock nuts and bolts so prob actually £40 for the front only

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Posted 27th Jan 2015 at 16:27
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I'll be doing it on my own (which is really the first mistake in all my DIY Smile )

I'm always one for gadgets and since my my hand-strength is like a girls (snapped my thumb tendons and had my wrists ones cut out to replace) i think the impact gun is a good shout! Got a recommendation or link to the one you got?

Ta again.

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Posted 27th Jan 2015 at 16:26
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Hi mate, this looks and reads exactly like the one I bought:

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Corded-Impact-Wrench-1-2-Sockets-w-Case-230-V-450Nm-Power-Tool-Car-Wheel-Nut-/221603488230?pt=UK_Home_Power_Tools_Batteries_Buffers&hash=item339898e1e6

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Posted 27th Jan 2015 at 16:36
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Hi mate, this looks and reads exactly like the one I bought:

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Corded-Impact-Wrench-1-2-Sockets-w-Case-230-V-450Nm-Power-Tool-Car-Wheel-Nut-/221603488230?pt=UK_Home_Power_Tools_Batteries_Buffers&hash=item339898e1e6


Thanks - another on the beer list Thumbs up

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Posted 27th Jan 2015 at 16:42
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No worries mate.

Only other tip I can think of is when you buy the wheel bearings get SNR branded ones. OEM supplier but available from ECP at a good price Wink

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Posted 27th Jan 2015 at 16:47
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I have one of these.

http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?P65=yes&tool=all&item_ID=648625&group_ID=682064


Also

http://www.makitauk.com/products/cordless-tools/impact-drivers/all-cordless-impact-drivers/dtd146z-impact-driver-18v-lxt.html

which is ok for smaller nuts and bolts, if I was buying one specifically for car work I would have got this one though

http://www.makitauk.com/products/cordless-tools/impact-wrenches/all-cordless-impact-wrenches/dtw251z-18v-impact-wrench-lxt.html

which is what Sebastian Loeb carries in his DS3 WRC car Big grin


and of course, once you buy one Makita tool, you can;t help but buy another one...


http://www.makitauk.com/products/cordless-tools/angle-grinders/all-cordless-angle-grinders/dga452z-18v-angle-grinder-115mm-lxt.html



and another...


http://www.makitauk.com/products/cordless-tools/drill-drivers/all-cordless-drill-drivers/ddf456z-18v-drill-driver-13mm-lxt.html

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Posted 27th Jan 2015 at 16:56
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Yes but we have 306's and you don't LOL Razz

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Posted 27th Jan 2015 at 17:13
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ask for advice and ends up with a new tool kit ,,lol

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Posted 27th Jan 2015 at 17:17
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MisterGTR

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Twangy wrote:
ask for advice and ends up with a new tool kit ,,lol


Twangy - all the gear and no idea here...nice to meet you Big grin

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Posted 27th Jan 2015 at 17:35
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welshpug! wrote:
I have one of these.

http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?P65=yes&tool=all&item_ID=648625&group_ID=682064


Also

http://www.makitauk.com/products/cordless-tools/impact-drivers/all-cordless-impact-drivers/dtd146z-impact-driver-18v-lxt.html

which is ok for smaller nuts and bolts, if I was buying one specifically for car work I would have got this one though

http://www.makitauk.com/products/cordless-tools/impact-wrenches/all-cordless-impact-wrenches/dtw251z-18v-impact-wrench-lxt.html

which is what Sebastian Loeb carries in his DS3 WRC car Big grin


and of course, once you buy one Makita tool, you can;t help but buy another one...


http://www.makitauk.com/products/cordless-tools/angle-grinders/all-cordless-angle-grinders/dga452z-18v-angle-grinder-115mm-lxt.html



and another...


http://www.makitauk.com/products/cordless-tools/drill-drivers/all-cordless-drill-drivers/ddf456z-18v-drill-driver-13mm-lxt.html


I will have to take a look at this later...... Hyper

BTW it's okay to have tools worth more than your car right?! LOL

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Posted 27th Jan 2015 at 17:37
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MisterGTR

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barrym wrote:
No worries mate.

Only other tip I can think of is when you buy the wheel bearings get SNR branded ones. OEM supplier but available from ECP at a good price Wink


Noted Cheers

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Posted 27th Jan 2015 at 17:38
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MisterGTR wrote:
Twangy wrote:
ask for advice and ends up with a new tool kit ,,lol


Twangy - all the gear and no idea here...nice to meet you Big grin


LOL LOL , youll get it done ,no worrys ,nice to meet you

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Posted 27th Jan 2015 at 17:41
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welshpug!

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I will have to take a look at this later...... Hyper
BTW it's okay to have tools worth more than your car right?! LOL


hell yeah, dread to think the value in the boot of the car when I visit a breakers yard with my toolbox and the makita bag and the snapon box Blink

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Posted 27th Jan 2015 at 17:58
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welshpug! wrote:
MisterGTR wrote:


I will have to take a look at this later...... Hyper
BTW it's okay to have tools worth more than your car right?! LOL


hell yeah, dread to think the value in the boot of the car when I visit a breakers yard with my toolbox and the makita bag and the snapon box Blink


Shh....you'll have dodgy types following you around now....you know the ones on here Wink

When i was 18 i would go with a hammer and huge screwdriver. Did the trick for a all the Mk1 and Mk2 Fiesta bits we were after! Probably explains why i'm so limited now LOL

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Posted 27th Jan 2015 at 18:37
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MisterGTR wrote:
barrym wrote:
Hi mate, this looks and reads exactly like the one I bought:

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Corded-Impact-Wrench-1-2-Sockets-w-Case-230-V-450Nm-Power-Tool-Car-Wheel-Nut-/221603488230?pt=UK_Home_Power_Tools_Batteries_Buffers&hash=item339898e1e6


Thanks - another on the beer list Thumbs up


You have pretty much promised to buy everyone on the forum a beer at some point in time. Big grin

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Posted 27th Jan 2015 at 19:02
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welshpug! wrote:
...snip...


Very smart impact wrench.

Aside from the SO, do you own any of those Makita products? How do you rate them? Are they relieble? I'm considering buying a combi drill (the DHP/BHP type and the 459 model, specifically) and informed opinions would be greatly received. Smile
Posted 27th Jan 2015 at 19:51
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yeah I've got a combi drill or drill driver, specific model I dont recall, angle grinder, impact wrench, reciprocating saw and a Lamp.

my brother has the same impact driver, a drill, the site radio, 110v SDS drill and a mitre saw, also a circular saw IIRC!


the 18v grinder is ok for scrapyard stuff and really light work, but you'll be flattening the standard 3Ah batteries quite quickly if you use it hard, you can get 4Ah batteries.

all LXT 18v stuff so all my stuff is compatible with my brothers 18v batteries too.

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Posted 27th Jan 2015 at 20:08
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I use metabo battery gear with 5.2ah batts the grinder is amazing
Posted 27th Jan 2015 at 20:39
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Yeah I had a look at some Metabo as well as Fein and Festool but they're a little more than I need/want to spend... Makita seems like a good compromise.
Posted 27th Jan 2015 at 20:48
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I use Mikita combi drill at work 4th one in 5 years and the batteries suddenly stop charging. Saying that i stick with it because of the performance but there's better stuff on the market depends on how much you abuse power tool to be fair

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Posted 27th Jan 2015 at 20:52
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ian have you heard this now everyone going on about whos got the best tool , well l have knocked out three with mine so far and one on the way don't know about you m8 lol

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Posted 27th Jan 2015 at 21:20
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