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tom_g205

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Post #26
I would like a full system but funding says no at the moment. I understand the exhaust isn't ideal at the moment but it's something I will have to leave for the moment.

So a satchell inlet it is for now and see what happens.

Fingers crossed it makes me happier than it did today.

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Posted 28th Jul 2014 at 21:40
tom_g205

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Post #27
Day666 wrote:
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DAY666, the cams are solid profiles so not that re-saleable unfortunately.


What a shame !!!!!
I'm sure you chaps can help & save him shed loads of money ?
Sounds like he's nearly there ...
I would be pulling my hair out knowing its more than a capable engine ...
Willing to buy 48s ....means he's dead keen on that manic number .

Tom ....don't spend anymore money .!!!!!.....for what it's worth ...If it was ME .....I would 100% be visiting Mr Brown & Mr Satchell.
Sounds like you need someone now to sort the last final bits out .!


I was rather gutted today but I just want to get it sorted and I have a track day on the 7th so wanted it sorted for then.

I'm iff to a different mapper though in Monday so hopefully he will bring me some light.

Just need to get a satchell inlet on order and hope he has one on the shelf.

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Posted 28th Jul 2014 at 21:46
welshpug!

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Post #28
give miles a shout, I believe he may have stocks.

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Posted 28th Jul 2014 at 21:48
bigbadbowen

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Post #29
Think your chucking money away until you can get a proper exhaust system to be honest. You must have some cash from not buying the jenveys ? Cancell mapping and your almost at the exhaust figure ?

Speak to dave at maniflow and see if he will do a cash deal on a full system ? I know 750 cash will get a full race system oh and sound the t1ts as well
Posted 28th Jul 2014 at 21:48
matty_rallye

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Post #30
As said something isn't quite right with that spec to only make that power. On milder cams, standard bottom end and 45's with kms ecu years ago mine made about 208 bhp. 45'S won't limit at that level, neither will the exhaust mani as mine made nearly 230 on the standard exhaust manifold on the later spec.

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Posted 28th Jul 2014 at 21:48
bigbadbowen

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Post #31
Are you running open trumpets ? I mean is there a backing plate and filter ?
Posted 28th Jul 2014 at 21:54
tom_g205

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Post #32
I have double sock style filters currently.

I think the cam timing needs checking and a satchell inlet fitting

Then give it another go on the rollers.

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Posted 28th Jul 2014 at 22:06
tom_g205

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Post #33
welshpug! wrote:
give miles a shout, I believe he may have stocks.


He does. He's not in work until Thursday though.

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Posted 28th Jul 2014 at 22:08
welshpug!

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Post #34
AH! fecking socks!! bin them asap, that'll be a big chunk of your missing geegees.

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Posted 28th Jul 2014 at 22:16
bigbadbowen

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Post #35
A proper backing plate near the open end of some proper trumpets may help ? I do airflow for a living so know a thing or 2 about how air behaves when being pulled into something
Posted 28th Jul 2014 at 22:18
Day666

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Post #36
tom_g205 wrote:
welshpug! wrote:
give miles a shout, I believe he may have stocks.


He does. He's not in work until Thursday though.


Bought my 3j plate diff & other bits off Miles ....he's got to be one of the most laid back people I have met & spoken to !!!!
Very helpful though Thumbs up
Has the life of Reilly by the sound of it ....

Be careful of Rolling road figures ????.....some are up & some down .....Keep your chin up Tom ....nearly there m8 .Thumbs up
Good to try several good ones .!!!!!!
Posted 28th Jul 2014 at 22:22
tom_g205

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Post #37
So do you think I should use adjustable trumpets on the rollers to gauge the length I need then purchase fixed length ones?

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Posted 28th Jul 2014 at 23:06
welshpug!

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Post #38
yes if you have them certainly they would help, though being slightly smaller bore might throw the length out a bit, you need to consider the shape of the replacements too, depends a lot on your engine/cam setup, but Sandy has noted that Colin's straight sided short radius trumpet gives better results than a long taper like a jenvey trumpet.

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Posted 28th Jul 2014 at 23:11
tom_g205

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Post #39
Ok many thanks for everyone's help tonight. Saved me a £850 bill for 48's fingers crossed and I will get there in the end. My plan for now is to get a satchell inlet thrown on with my adjustable trumpets and see what my new mapper comes up with. It can't be any worse than today tbh.

Again many thanks for the help.

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Posted 28th Jul 2014 at 23:22
Day666

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Post #40
So glad you listened to the Lads on here who know !!!!!

Please keep us up dated Tom
Keep smiling m8 Thumbs up
Posted 28th Jul 2014 at 23:40
tom_g205

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Post #41
Day666 wrote:
So glad you listened to the Lads on here who know !!!!!

Please keep us up dated Tom
Keep smiling m8 Thumbs up


It's the problem when you told different things by so many people.

You don't know which to go for. But I will be trying my best and trying not to rush things

I will keep you updated for sure.

One last thing. Do you think my exhaust cam timing is out. I will upload a picture.

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Posted 28th Jul 2014 at 23:50
tom_g205

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Post #42

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Posted 28th Jul 2014 at 23:55
tom_g205

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Post #43
The inlet cam is aligned and the exhaust pulley is all the way to one side. Do you think this should be central to ?

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Posted 28th Jul 2014 at 23:56
adam b

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Post #44
Don't be too hung up on the figure, just look at the shape of the graph if it's a dyno, which is what you have done.

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Posted 29th Jul 2014 at 07:00
welshpug!

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Post #45
you need a dial gauge to do the timing.

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Posted 29th Jul 2014 at 07:29
tom_g205

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Post #46
It's going to be checked Monday again.

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Posted 29th Jul 2014 at 09:24
jammapic

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Post #47
FYI, those sock filters lost me 13hp when compared with a sausage filter and backplate...

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Posted 29th Jul 2014 at 10:27
tom_g205

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Post #48
I will be fitting a backplate so that will be sorted for Monday. So fingers crossed I have a better result.

Cheers for all the help.

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205 GTi-6 weekend/track car - project 230 N/A fingers crossed.
Posted 29th Jul 2014 at 14:24
tom_g205

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Post #49
I managed to get the dyno graphs today there are two runs.

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Posted 29th Jul 2014 at 17:21
Day666

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Post #50
jammapic wrote:
FYI, those sock filters lost me 13hp when compared with a sausage filter and backplate...

JP


Good info JamesThumbs up

TOM did you manage to cancel your 48s?
Posted 29th Jul 2014 at 18:14

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