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chiefton

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Right recently changed ecu coolant temp sensor as gauge was jumping about abit and I didnt think was correct

This when I found the bodged up fan wiring etc. ..

temp gauge sits at 90° when driving but then jumps to 100 then stays there for bit when driving relativly fast etc. Oil temp normal.

wired fan switch under dash by using 2 wires from fan relay socket on front of cowling to switch (very temporary fix as its my daily) and when I ssitch that the temp gauge goes up a fair way and doesnt come back down past 100°........

Got revotec fan controller kit coming have slimline fans already for that,but wondering why the gauge is doinv this any help much appreciated????

its always running really hot according to gauge mostly at 90
worth doing a stat change??

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Posted 4th Jul 2014 at 21:31
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ecu temp sender, as the name suggests, has nothing to do with the gauge...

sounds like a dicky thermostat and possibly rad.

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Posted 4th Jul 2014 at 21:41
chiefton

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Got a good nissens ally rad so il do stat change tomorrow. Cheers welshpug

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Posted 4th Jul 2014 at 21:54
chiefton

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Also sorry it had different colour sensor and the plug was twisting about on the sensor body!!

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Posted 4th Jul 2014 at 21:57
Niall

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Te blue plug sensor is the one for the dials. I had a bad one on my 1.8 doing the same as yours but tbh to me it sounds like you have a big airlock.
Posted 4th Jul 2014 at 22:36
chiefton

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right not an air lock no air at all but its running really hot,getting annoying!!!!

not sure why it runs so hot all of a sudden????

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Posted 5th Jul 2014 at 18:43
bigbadbowen

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Check the thermostat is working correctly first then I'd flush out the coolant system and rad - it may have had rad weld thrown in at some point in its life and that can clog up rads / waterways etc ?

Has it had a water pump change recently ?

It could be first signs of head gasket failing as well Sad

Could just be a fecked blue sensor on thermostat housing Yes
Posted 5th Jul 2014 at 20:33
chiefton

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Is ecu temp sensor on stat housing green...dash gauge blue??

Never had rad weld in it wouldnt use it!!!

Changing stat tomorrow and have ally rad.

waterpump done 15k ago along with head gasket and its never done this

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Posted 5th Jul 2014 at 21:31
bigbadbowen

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Ecu temp sensor is green
Dash temp sensor is the blue one

Have you defo bled the thermostat housing properly ? Air pockets will cause funny readings

If you changing the thermostat I'd advise not to use pattern parts or pattern seals as they are a very slightly different size - get an oe stat and seal !

The fact you have never used rad weld doesn't mean a previous owner hasn't ? Did you install the rad ? Was it new ? Any crud stuck in the rad can cause a bad flow. Well worth flushing the coolant system IMO
Posted 5th Jul 2014 at 21:47
bigbadbowen

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Get the bottom hose off the rad and then take a matrix hose of the engine and put a hose on it to flush the matrix ! Get the rad out and flush it out with a hose
Posted 5th Jul 2014 at 21:49
chiefton

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That what I thought its had a good flush through when headgasket done,i mean full on and also had apart again with flush then and new fluids when i put engine in the rallye,I bought new rad and its never messed about like this iv drivin the car loads only just started doin this. Very strange hadcto go on long trip earlia and just sat at 100 upwards whole way.....not good just not sure why its running so hot.
nothing is blocked,has no airlock nothing just runs very hot atm

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Posted 5th Jul 2014 at 22:08
bigbadbowen

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Something is wrong it shouldn't run at 100 in normal conditions. Did you not change the thermostat when head gasket was done?

You have checked the coolant level I assume ?

How did you bleed the system? It's easy to not do it correctly ?
Posted 5th Jul 2014 at 22:16
armzsc6

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Would put this down to stuck thermostat, air lock, poor bleeding, or head gasket failed.

Still pressure in the rad when cold the next morning?

How did you bleed it through.... E.g BEFORE running car fill the rad, open all bleed points, refil rad then attach a bottle or hose to the top of the rad to raise the water level above the engine. Making the bottle the high point to which the air will go to in the system... Fill with more coolant / water till only water coming out of the lowest bleed point, then the next bleed point then the next etc etc.

Also try drilling a small hole in the thermostat this can help bleeding massively.

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Posted 5th Jul 2014 at 22:23
bigbadbowen

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Never had to drill a thermostat but have had issues with bleeding a system ? You know it's right when you get hot air at the blowers and fans kick in at 100 ish normal running temp is around 80ish if it creeps up to 100 then something is wrong
Posted 5th Jul 2014 at 22:36
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I usually fill the rad then sort the matrix then sort the thermostat housing but usually have to with car running to get thermostat to open - I always get burnt at the matrix
Posted 5th Jul 2014 at 22:39
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New thermostat sorted it. ....now running at a cool 80° Thumbs up

Bleeding was piece of cake,done a few before.

thanks all for help Smile

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Posted 7th Jul 2014 at 23:16
armzsc6

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Good good. Had this issue before, at least it was a simple fix.

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Posted 7th Jul 2014 at 23:35
chiefton

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Yeah thank god,still gonna fit a revotec fan controller and a slimline fan and do away with original as dont like how it is and want proper job done!!

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Posted 8th Jul 2014 at 00:03
armzsc6

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Standard ones cut in far to late IMO anyway it's pretty well overheating by the time they come in at high speed. I've had my AC button bridged to run them high speed for years now and works spot on.

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Posted 8th Jul 2014 at 10:22
chiefton

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Yeah i had the ac switch bridged on my black 6 and that does work well.

yeah I always thought temp was abit high when they cut in...slimlines and revotec all the way lol

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Posted 8th Jul 2014 at 10:39
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Revotec?

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