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Hi all not too sure which route to take turbocharged vs supercharged any advice greatly received I'm thinking maybe turbo but not 100% 
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 Pikey176
Newbie  Location: Swindon Registered: 02 Sep 2013 Posts: 42 Status: Offline |
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 Posted 3rd Mar 2014 at 21:19
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rallyeash
Seasoned Pro  Location: Devizes Registered: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 4,424 Status: Offline |
Post #2
Loads of charged info and kits on here. A more easy, practice conversion and probably more reliable. You won't be trying to always solve heat soak etc.... Depends what you want out of the car, budget and what your planning on using it for. ________________________________________ 230 hp 2.1 16v XU 205 rallye on jenveys Project thread here309 3dr K20 Type R |
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Posted 3rd Mar 2014 at 21:21
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3rd time lucky
Seasoned Pro  Location: maidstone Registered: 23 Apr 2007 Posts: 1,877 Status: Offline |
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Supercharged is very much tried and tested with kits ready to bolt on  ________________________________________ DIABLO GTI-6 - Legend - NILE GTI-6 - SoldCHERRY GTI-6 P1 SUPERCHARGED - Broken up BLACK RALLYE - Sold 205 Dturbo xud9 work horse - Dead CHERRY RALLYE - new toy |
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Posted 3rd Mar 2014 at 22:34
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,784 Status: Offline |
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Moved to Engines.  ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone  |
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Posted 3rd Mar 2014 at 22:37
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Niall
Seasoned Pro  Location: Epsom Registered: 06 Jun 2012 Posts: 1,941 Status: Offline |
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As said above, supercharged is normally easier and more reliable but i personally love how a turbo'd car drives. But still, i supercharged mine for ease and cost. |
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Posted 3rd Mar 2014 at 22:39
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doof
Regular Location: nottingham Registered: 24 Nov 2007 Posts: 231 Status: Offline |
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I love my low boost '6 and until my charger died (which doesn't seem too common thankfully) I had lots of trouble free miles with really good mpg (not far off my parents MR2 Roadster with a 1.8 and vvti!). I think the Rotrex conversions are generally very reliable even at high boost because of the fact that the power curve remains very much like an NA car. Lots of power up top and no huge surges of torque like turbo cars can have at high power levels. Go for it, but be careful of 'charger rpm. I'm going to get my low boost remapped and might move the limiter to 7k to avoid overspinning the 'charger. |
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Posted 4th Mar 2014 at 09:46
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aaron6
Seasoned Pro  Location: On the sofa in maidstone Registered: 16 May 2006 Posts: 5,840 Status: Offline |
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But it would be nice to see a nice turbo conversion. I think the way that binkas drove was spot on. So much more fun than a low boost. Shame it build quality was aweful. That one had loads of potential.   ________________________________________ See the sheer power and might of the lesser known burrowing owl. |
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Posted 4th Mar 2014 at 10:08
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eliotrw
Seasoned Pro  Location: Southwark Registered: 18 Jul 2010 Posts: 4,863 Status: Offline |
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You cant do a turbo for less than 5k put it that way.Not well. ________________________________________ Ex- Phase 3 China GTi-6 T-Reg |
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Posted 4th Mar 2014 at 10:18
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aaron6
Seasoned Pro Location: On the sofa in maidstone Registered: 16 May 2006 Posts: 5,840 Status: Offline |
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^^^ this is true.________________________________________ See the sheer power and might of the lesser known burrowing owl. |
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Posted 4th Mar 2014 at 10:20
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rikky
Forum Pikey  Location: cheshire Registered: 28 Feb 2004 Posts: 26,785 Status: Offline |
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you can. buy a 306 HDI________________________________________ 306 rallye reproduction decals (full sets/individual decals) | 306 b-pillar textured vinyl weatherstrips306 slam panel esso stickers | 306 yellow / orange / pension fund red side door badges 306 red '6' 3d-printed badges (old part no 866503) | gti6 inlet manifold badges | 306 rear boot badges (p2/p3) winner of Extraction of toys from prams with outstanding vigour award 2009 [source: gti6 owners club] |
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Posted 4th Mar 2014 at 10:25
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,784 Status: Offline |
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rikky wrote: you can. buy a 306 HDI  ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 4th Mar 2014 at 10:42
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3rd time lucky
Seasoned Pro Location: maidstone Registered: 23 Apr 2007 Posts: 1,877 Status: Offline |
Post #12
aaron6 wrote: But it would be nice to see a nice turbo conversion. I think the way that binkas drove was spot on. So much more fun than a low boost. Shame it build quality was aweful. That one had loads of potential. +1 I would much prefer a turbo conversion if done properly but cant afford £10K for it! ________________________________________ DIABLO GTI-6 - Legend - NILE GTI-6 - SoldCHERRY GTI-6 P1 SUPERCHARGED - Broken up BLACK RALLYE - Sold 205 Dturbo xud9 work horse - Dead CHERRY RALLYE - new toy |
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Posted 4th Mar 2014 at 11:08
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,808 Status: Offline |
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Bodies, far more pleasure, MUCH better sound, more reliable, cheaper to run, cheaper to build.________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 4th Mar 2014 at 11:15
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3rd time lucky
Seasoned Pro Location: maidstone Registered: 23 Apr 2007 Posts: 1,877 Status: Offline |
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welshpug! wrote: Bodies, far more pleasure, MUCH better sound, more reliable, cheaper to run, cheaper to build. True, but lowest bhp/£. ________________________________________ DIABLO GTI-6 - Legend - NILE GTI-6 - SoldCHERRY GTI-6 P1 SUPERCHARGED - Broken up BLACK RALLYE - Sold 205 Dturbo xud9 work horse - Dead CHERRY RALLYE - new toy |
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Posted 4th Mar 2014 at 11:27
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allanallen
Seasoned Pro Location: Buxton Registered: 01 May 2007 Posts: 1,399 Status: Offline |
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eliotrw wrote: You cant do a turbo for less than 5k put it that way. Not well. Yawn  How much did yours cost? ________________________________________ www.bridgecraftmotorsport.co.uk |
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Posted 4th Mar 2014 at 11:30
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3rd time lucky
Seasoned Pro Location: maidstone Registered: 23 Apr 2007 Posts: 1,877 Status: Offline |
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allanallen wrote: eliotrw wrote: You cant do a turbo for less than 5k put it that way. Not well. Yawn How much did yours cost? Are you suggesting that you can get a reasonably reliable turbo conversion done for under £5K...? If so.... Im interested! ________________________________________ DIABLO GTI-6 - Legend - NILE GTI-6 - SoldCHERRY GTI-6 P1 SUPERCHARGED - Broken up BLACK RALLYE - Sold 205 Dturbo xud9 work horse - Dead CHERRY RALLYE - new toy |
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Posted 4th Mar 2014 at 11:56
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rallyestyle
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3rd time lucky wrote: allanallen wrote: eliotrw wrote: You cant do a turbo for less than 5k put it that way. Not well. Yawn How much did yours cost? Are you suggesting that you can get a reasonably reliable turbo conversion done for under £5K...? If so.... Im interested! All depends on how much power you want really i would have thought  If you are happy with a minimal increase in power, say 250bhp then it would be quite cheap and perfectly reliable i would have thought. ________________________________________ Just Drive It |
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Posted 4th Mar 2014 at 12:06
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3rd time lucky
Seasoned Pro Location: maidstone Registered: 23 Apr 2007 Posts: 1,877 Status: Offline |
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It seems the 6 lump can handle up to 275 bhp quite comfortably but as we know, the low boost superchargers are down on torque (i dont know the lb/ft figures). Putting a 350 capable turbo in the mix mapped to 250bhp/ 250lbft is adifferent ball game. I imagine the gearbox would be the first thing to 'do-one'.________________________________________ DIABLO GTI-6 - Legend - NILE GTI-6 - SoldCHERRY GTI-6 P1 SUPERCHARGED - Broken up BLACK RALLYE - Sold 205 Dturbo xud9 work horse - Dead CHERRY RALLYE - new toy |
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Posted 4th Mar 2014 at 12:31
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allanallen
Seasoned Pro Location: Buxton Registered: 01 May 2007 Posts: 1,399 Status: Offline |
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I'm suggesting that if you're competent with spanners and a welder you can build yourself a reliable turbo conversion for less than 5k.This is a mate of mines, it's a standard engine with a t28, external wastegate running around 9-10psi off the spring, it makes 270 bhp and over 250lbft. It's cost him well under 3k including a new omex and mapping. Another 1500 would see the engine rebuilt with a lower cr and more power. Does it need more power?? No  It's fun but IMO it doesn't make the best road car, I'd go supercharger but not a rotrex.....  ________________________________________ www.bridgecraftmotorsport.co.uk |
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Posted 4th Mar 2014 at 12:31
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superchargedblack1997gti6
Seasoned Pro  Location: guildford Registered: 15 Aug 2009 Posts: 2,376 Status: Offline |
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If you're fairly good with spanners I think a turbocharger conversion could be done for 230-275bhp for approx 3k and be fairly reliable. The key to getting it right is getting it right first time!________________________________________ Super high boost Completed, destroyer of gearboxes and 160mph club |
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Posted 4th Mar 2014 at 12:31
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allanallen
Seasoned Pro Location: Buxton Registered: 01 May 2007 Posts: 1,399 Status: Offline |
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superchargedblack1997gti6 wrote: If you're fairly good with spanners I think a turbocharger conversion could be done for 230-275bhp for approx 3k and be fairly reliable. The key to getting it right is getting it right first time! Exactly! If you throw the thing together with a 'it'll do' attitude it's never going to be reliable, you'll then spend more money sorting your f**k ups. Careful thought and planning and patience sourcing the right bits for the right money and you can do it very cheaply! ________________________________________ www.bridgecraftmotorsport.co.uk |
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Posted 4th Mar 2014 at 12:35
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aaron6
Seasoned Pro Location: On the sofa in maidstone Registered: 16 May 2006 Posts: 5,840 Status: Offline |
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I want to see someone do it. Did you mare use a decomp plate change the pistons? ________________________________________ See the sheer power and might of the lesser known burrowing owl. |
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Posted 4th Mar 2014 at 13:12
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3rd time lucky
Seasoned Pro Location: maidstone Registered: 23 Apr 2007 Posts: 1,877 Status: Offline |
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Wow! Got any more pics?________________________________________ DIABLO GTI-6 - Legend - NILE GTI-6 - SoldCHERRY GTI-6 P1 SUPERCHARGED - Broken up BLACK RALLYE - Sold 205 Dturbo xud9 work horse - Dead CHERRY RALLYE - new toy |
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Posted 4th Mar 2014 at 13:30
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eddy_gti6
Seasoned Pro  Location: Durham Registered: 20 Oct 2008 Posts: 8,716 Status: Offline |
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3rd time lucky wrote: welshpug! wrote: Bodies, far more pleasure, MUCH better sound, more reliable, cheaper to run, cheaper to build. True, but lowest bhp/£. Maybe less power but more usable and better for B roads and sounds a hell of a lot better too!  ________________________________________ Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 4th Mar 2014 at 14:00
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allanallen
Seasoned Pro Location: Buxton Registered: 01 May 2007 Posts: 1,399 Status: Offline |
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aaron6 wrote: I want to see someone do it. Did you mare use a decomp plate change the pistons? Someone has done it? I've just shown you the pictures??? As I say the engines completely standard, it's done over 120k and has a motor factors cardboard style head gasket. No more pics at the minute, I'll get some next time I see him ________________________________________ www.bridgecraftmotorsport.co.uk |
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Posted 4th Mar 2014 at 14:28
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