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doof

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Post #51
Feedback from Bilstein:

Bilstein wrote:


As per my previous email, what shows on the pictures is not a problem. The dampers are being safely clamped and they don’t have to come through the bottom of the hole hub, the distance between the spring pan and the top of the hub should be the same.

I have just compared the B4 and B8 dampers and the tab is fitted on the same position, and therefore we maintain, there are no design issue whatsoever. We sell these dampers in a regular basis and this has never been an issue. Despite your comments about various people complaining, we have never heard of this.
Posted 2nd Apr 2014 at 12:16
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doof

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Post #52
I have emailed again to get absolute confirmation that the shocks are designed not to sit wholly in the hub carrier. I have also asked for the measurement on a B4 between spring pan and the tab (top of hub carrier)
Posted 2nd Apr 2014 at 12:17
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Post #53
I would not be happy with that in the later hub carriers, early ones you would get away with it, not later ones.

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Posted 2nd Apr 2014 at 12:20
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Post #54
Just checked my 205, that has insert type inverted bilsteins with std diameter springs, often called group n, 6.5 inches from top of clamp to the spring pan roughly, the leg is square ended tube not a rounded cap, like the height adjustable ones and sit same distance from bottom edge of the clamp which is the std solid cast early type hub.

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Posted 2nd Apr 2014 at 12:38
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Post #55
none of mine come up short, only your 306 ones, the o.e damper shown a page back would sit nearly flush with the bottom too as the clamp is about 50mm tall.

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Posted 2nd Apr 2014 at 13:13
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Post #56
Sorry misread your earlier post. I'm on the same page now!
Posted 2nd Apr 2014 at 15:09
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Post #57
I emailed them but didn't hear anything back and I fail to accept they've been designed to be partly secured.

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Posted 2nd Apr 2014 at 19:33
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Post #58
trouble is if they do accept they got it wrong, they have a fairly sizeable recall on their hands LOL

I'd bet that both spring pan and locator tab are the correct distance, but that both are 5mm or so too low on the tube.

anyone got a damper to hand that they can measure the total length of the lower leg? not including the domed part on the bottom.

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Posted 2nd Apr 2014 at 19:37
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tony1991

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Post #59
From the bottom of the spring pan to bottom of the shock with out the dome ? Intake it you mean on standard shocks ?
Posted 2nd Apr 2014 at 20:39
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Post #60
If someone has a standard shock measure everything on a drawing or something. Spring pan to bottom, pan to strut top etc

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Posted 5th Apr 2014 at 11:56
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https://m.flickr.com/photos/berilia/13755958814/sizes/m/

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Posted 10th Apr 2014 at 10:33
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Post #62
Is that an OE shock?
Posted 10th Apr 2014 at 15:49
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Post #63
No, its a b4.

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Posted 10th Apr 2014 at 16:28
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Post #64
Yeah, Sorry that's B4

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Posted 10th Apr 2014 at 17:48
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Post #65
Yeah, Sorry that's B4

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Posted 10th Apr 2014 at 17:48
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Post #67
A little hard to see, but its there

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Posted 10th Apr 2014 at 17:50
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Niall

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Post #68
Had my shock off today to replace a bad top mount bearing so took some measurements. I know its a B8 shock but thought it may help with comparison against the OE shock.











Posted 12th Apr 2014 at 19:31
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Post #69
Good stuff! I'll have a look and see how that compares

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Posted 1st May 2014 at 11:53
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Day666

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I've also just fitted B8s on front of Phaze2 6 & mine are also 15mm short from being FLUSH !!
I just better make sure I don't jump it on any bridgesLOL
Posted 1st May 2014 at 12:42
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welshpug!

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Post #71
I know someone who did, and yes they bent in the clamp.

As i showed, the 205 ones are the same design but sit flush.

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Posted 1st May 2014 at 12:45
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Post #72
Okay. B4

Locating tab to bottom strut 45mm

Top link tab to bottom 170mm

Bottom link tab to bottom 130mm

Bottom of pan to bottom 215mm

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Posted 1st May 2014 at 14:00
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daver6

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Post #73
Removing the locating tab would obviously allow the strut to sit further into the hub carrier, the arb tab would need to be relocated though?

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Posted 20th May 2014 at 11:31
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welshpug!

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Post #74
depends if they put that in the wrong place or not.

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Posted 20th May 2014 at 13:37
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welshpug!

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Post #75
doof wrote:
Sorry I didn't have measurements but have just fired off an email to Bilstein with the above measurements and photos so we'll see what he says.


what email did you use? I have some Bilsteins for my BMW that need fixing Sad

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Posted 20th May 2014 at 13:39
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