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ryangti6

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Post #51
All the highboosts still have the throttle body before the charger so they can run standard ecu, It's only the ones like stans that run on dta that have the tb after the charger.

The low boost I went in was like a normal 6 till 4k then a totally different car, having driven a 6 engined 205 and knowing how pokey they are even below 4k due to not much weight I think the characteristics of a charged one would be perfect for a road going car and don't see why they couldn't make a very good track car. You still have to drive them in exactly the same way as if they were na, I.e rev them hard so I don't think you lose the fun of working it like you do with turbo cars.

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Posted 13th Jan 2014 at 17:41
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Post #52
doof wrote:
stan_306gti6 wrote:
gman wrote:
I was under the impression that the SC kit still has the same throttle response as the standard 6 engine, which is still very good.


You would be correct. Yes


I think this is only actually true if you have a high boost setup, Stan. The highboost setup retains the throttle response because the throttle is kept just next to the plenum. The low boost setup definitely loses throttle response because the throttle plate is several meters after the inlet plenum, hence some cars stalling etc. You learn to live with it but the response is definitely much slower.


Doof, do you have a charged 6 then?

This is a big issue for me, and so I would be grateful for any feedback on the throttle response of the LB setup.

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Posted 13th Jan 2014 at 20:35
rallyestyle

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Post #53
gman wrote:
doof wrote:
stan_306gti6 wrote:
gman wrote:
I was under the impression that the SC kit still has the same throttle response as the standard 6 engine, which is still very good.


You would be correct. Yes


I think this is only actually true if you have a high boost setup, Stan. The highboost setup retains the throttle response because the throttle is kept just next to the plenum. The low boost setup definitely loses throttle response because the throttle plate is several meters after the inlet plenum, hence some cars stalling etc. You learn to live with it but the response is definitely much slower.


Doof, do you have a charged 6 then?

This is a big issue for me, and so I would be grateful for any feedback on the throttle response of the LB setup.


For me it is no different No I however have never had any of the stalling issues some of the other guys get and i run HB pipework Yes

With regards to the power outputs my lb setup has produced a good readings when rolling roaded, between 260 and 270 all times. I would say the key to achieving a good result is a sensible intercooler system with as few bends as possible and a decent exhaust with a decat. If either of those are compromised you will be losing power Yes

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Posted 16th Jan 2014 at 11:32
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Post #54
rallyestyle wrote:
gman wrote:
doof wrote:
stan_306gti6 wrote:
gman wrote:
I was under the impression that the SC kit still has the same throttle response as the standard 6 engine, which is still very good.


You would be correct. Yes


I think this is only actually true if you have a high boost setup, Stan. The highboost setup retains the throttle response because the throttle is kept just next to the plenum. The low boost setup definitely loses throttle response because the throttle plate is several meters after the inlet plenum, hence some cars stalling etc. You learn to live with it but the response is definitely much slower.


Doof, do you have a charged 6 then?

This is a big issue for me, and so I would be grateful for any feedback on the throttle response of the LB setup.


For me it is no different No I however have never had any of the stalling issues some of the other guys get and i run HB pipework Yes

With regards to the power outputs my lb setup has produced a good readings when rolling roaded, between 260 and 270 all times. I would say the key to achieving a good result is a sensible intercooler system with as few bends as possible and a decent exhaust with a decat. If either of those are compromised you will be losing power Yes


That's good to know. Just need to find another LB kit as I have been let down on the one organisedSad

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Posted 16th Jan 2014 at 13:45
rallyestyle

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Post #55
gman wrote:
rallyestyle wrote:
gman wrote:
doof wrote:
stan_306gti6 wrote:
gman wrote:
I was under the impression that the SC kit still has the same throttle response as the standard 6 engine, which is still very good.


You would be correct. Yes


I think this is only actually true if you have a high boost setup, Stan. The highboost setup retains the throttle response because the throttle is kept just next to the plenum. The low boost setup definitely loses throttle response because the throttle plate is several meters after the inlet plenum, hence some cars stalling etc. You learn to live with it but the response is definitely much slower.


Doof, do you have a charged 6 then?

This is a big issue for me, and so I would be grateful for any feedback on the throttle response of the LB setup.


For me it is no different No I however have never had any of the stalling issues some of the other guys get and i run HB pipework Yes

With regards to the power outputs my lb setup has produced a good readings when rolling roaded, between 260 and 270 all times. I would say the key to achieving a good result is a sensible intercooler system with as few bends as possible and a decent exhaust with a decat. If either of those are compromised you will be losing power Yes


That's good to know. Just need to find another LB kit as I have been let down on the one organisedSad


Ross is selling his including the charger for a great price:

http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=158868

Essentially the same kit, you will just need a few bits that Rich can sort you out with Thumbs up

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Posted 16th Jan 2014 at 14:39
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Post #56
Good price, but will still need to by pipework, intercooler, injectors, spark plugs, ecu. Trying to do it on a budget and that can't be done at that price.

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2005 Clio 182 Trophy (sold)
Posted 16th Jan 2014 at 15:11
v6saloon

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Post #57
gman wrote:
Good price, but will still need to by pipework, intercooler, injectors, spark plugs, ecu. Trying to do it on a budget and that can't be done at that price.

Gti180 can be done on a budget ;-)

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Posted 16th Jan 2014 at 15:18
gman

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Post #58
v6saloon wrote:
gman wrote:
Good price, but will still need to by pipework, intercooler, injectors, spark plugs, ecu. Trying to do it on a budget and that can't be done at that price.

Gti180 can be done on a budget ;-)


LOL but I've already got a 6 engine fitted, so won't be massively faster

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2005 Clio 182 Trophy (sold)
Posted 16th Jan 2014 at 16:03
v6saloon

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Post #59
gman wrote:
v6saloon wrote:
gman wrote:
Good price, but will still need to by pipework, intercooler, injectors, spark plugs, ecu. Trying to do it on a budget and that can't be done at that price.

Gti180 can be done on a budget ;-)


LOL but I've already got a 6 engine fitted, so won't be massively faster

195bhp, more torque and a lot lighter, it is actually quite aot faster tbf mate

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Posted 16th Jan 2014 at 17:36

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