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spiky

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I've got mine advertised, but just wondering what the going rate is for a second had low boost setup

Mine come with either a cosworth inter cooler or a high boost inter cooler


If I need to reduce mine I will, if I have it over priced

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Posted 29th Dec 2013 at 11:13
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I would say a 'complete' kit ready to fit including ECU should be around the £1600 mark. Smile

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Posted 29th Dec 2013 at 11:43
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IMO the age and mileage of the charger is probably the most important thing in determining value of a 'ready-to-fit' second hand setup.

They've been known to fail, and are very expensive to replace so a young / low mileage charger should command a higher price than an older one with more miles on it.

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Posted 29th Dec 2013 at 11:48
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That's true Rich, however the charger is only a small part of the 'complete' kit. Whilst it's true it is the most expensive part to replace, most will have similar mileage on them now, unless they are potentially looking at being 'third hand' by now.

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Posted 29th Dec 2013 at 11:58
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£1600 mentioned by stan would be very tempting for lots of people.

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Posted 29th Dec 2013 at 12:03
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The trouble with a lot of the kits is that they are now second or even third hand, so proving mileage and history of use is quite hard and will no doubt affect a buyers confidence in the charger having a decent life span.

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Posted 29th Dec 2013 at 12:09
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Think the mileage was about 8k before me and I've have it only probably clocked up about 1-1500 miles

1600 seems very cheap to me, and I won't be selling for that price

Thanks for views tough Smile

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Posted 29th Dec 2013 at 12:10
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spiky wrote:
Think the mileage was about 8k before me and I've have it only probably clocked up about 1-1500 miles

1600 seems very cheap to me, and I won't be selling for that price

Thanks for views tough Smile


Hi Steve,

Still interested in the kit and by all means stick to your guns if that's the price you want for it.

It does seem a bit steep given the conversations I've had with other lb owners looking to sell, including one with a lynx rebuilt engine and very recent lb package for 2.5k. These will likely sell before yours and I wouldn't say the market is particularly strong for these at the moment.

Good luck anyhow

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Posted 29th Dec 2013 at 12:47
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I would say 1600 is way too cheap if its everything, charger , kit, intercooler, ecu and injectors I would say more around 2k
Posted 29th Dec 2013 at 13:01
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Yeah I think 2500 is a bit steep. I might put mine down to 2100 with engine.

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Posted 29th Dec 2013 at 13:24
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I sold the fitting fit, charger/circuit, low boost intercooler and pipe work for £1600 back in January 2010, with the ECU and injectors selling for a further £350.

However, that was nearly 4 years ago now and I was the original owner of all those parts. Yes

You are trying to sell all these bits third hand for £2500? Good luck with the sale, but I think it's way overpriced and as has been said there isn't the huge market for them that used to exist 3-4 years ago. Sad

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Posted 29th Dec 2013 at 13:41
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Does anyone know the average lifetime of a charger if properly maintained? I have had the one on my Rallye since new and while it's been on the car for around 3 years i would probably say it's done less than 3000 miles Doh For the time being anyway Superman

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Posted 29th Dec 2013 at 15:11
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With regular oil/filter changes and constant warming up/slowing down procedures adhered to correctly I'd say you should be able to get 100k out of them really. They are a fairly high engineered piece of equipment. Yes

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Posted 29th Dec 2013 at 16:15
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stan_306gti6 wrote:
With regular oil/filter changes and constant warming up/slowing down procedures adhered to correctly I'd say you should be able to get 100k out of them really. They are a fairly high engineered piece of equipment. Yes


That's what i was thinking Yes They are fairly simple in the way they work so as long as the guidelines are adhered to then hopefully mine will last a long long time :-)

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Posted 29th Dec 2013 at 17:54
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Which should be reflected in second prices,

Just becuase they third hand, don't mean they about to fail

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Posted 29th Dec 2013 at 17:58
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Well you don't bolt a charger on a engine to have a easy life , so say that chargers been bolted on 3 times and track days I would say its had a hard life and me personally I would try to source rallyestyles one Wink

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Posted 29th Dec 2013 at 18:34
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rallyestyle

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jimmyrallye wrote:
I would try to source rallyestyles one Wink


Its too busy with it's feet up and slippers on LOL

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Posted 29th Dec 2013 at 19:09
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spiky wrote:
Which should be reflected in second prices,

Just becuase they third hand, don't mean they about to fail


Yes, this is true.

However, look at car values for example. If you buy a car new it costs an expensive price. Once it's second hand, even low age and miles, it still sells for a lot less.

Once it resells yet again, third time around, it sells for a slither of the new value, pretty much regardless of the age or miles, just because there are now three owners...

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Posted 29th Dec 2013 at 19:11
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jimmyrallye wrote:
Well you don't bolt a charger on a engine to have a easy life , so say that chargers been bolted on 3 times and track days I would say its had a hard life and me personally I would try to source rallyestyles one Wink


I wouldn't really agree that trackdays give them a particularly hard life to be honest. No

The servicing guidelines for the units say change the oil and filter every 2 years/50,000miles. Now, if the unit was a turbo using the engine oil for lubrication, this would probably be changed every trackday etc but still the turbo life would invariably be shorter than if the application was used for road use, due to the excess temperatures seen on track and many a turbo "glowing" red hot.

However, I have been on track with my C38/81 for a good 45 minutes without rest and on return to the pits it has been 'hot' yes, but not glowing or in my opinion "dangerously" hot for the unit. In fact I've found it run just as hot when road driving through the French Alps with it. Yes

In my particular case, I change the oil and filter on the 2 years as I don't cover the 50,000miles before then, however I think the longevity of the unit will far outlast an equal unit of the turbo variety.

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Posted 29th Dec 2013 at 19:17
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I agree with Stan in this one the fact that it doesn't share an oil supply with the engine I think a turbo gets a much harder life. I regularly give mine a hard time and it never gets anywhere near the running temp of a turbo in my opinion. Maybe that's the reasons the warranty is significantly longer with a charger than a turbo? Price wise anywhere between 1.5-2k I think is a fair price tbhThumbs up

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Posted 29th Dec 2013 at 20:39
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