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higgsy

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I've looked through the forum as much as I can and have come up with a couple of bits but nothing solid, my car idles fine revs up good and everything is tickity boo , when I press the clutch down after reving to anything higher than 1500 ,the revs drop and drop till it just stalls so when ever I stop at junction or whatever it stalls, any ideas ??
I've seen few people mention lambda sensor and the idle control valve , is that the way to go or anyone know anything solid?
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Posted 28th Nov 2013 at 11:23
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the lambda in my experience of them packing in just gives you delayer re-ponce when you put your foot down then springs to life again,..

yeah i'd 1st try changing the ICV,.. it's a 5 min job do you have someone local to you with a 6 that you could borrow just to rule it in or out?

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Posted 28th Nov 2013 at 11:28
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doon1988

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Higgsy - I have a similar issue when slowing down at lights/ junctions/ in traffic seems to be mainly when dipping the clutch to change from 2nd to 1st etc but sometimes happens in higher gears.

I am hoping to change ICV and Lambda this weekend - If I can figure out how to get to them both. Will let you know if this solves the issue - If I manage to replace them both.. although ive only bought used ones off someone breaking their 6 but hopefully they will be fully working haha
Posted 28th Nov 2013 at 12:00
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gnrlee wrote:
delayer re-ponce


Time-related re-gayification?
Posted 28th Nov 2013 at 14:01
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Clean the ICV before spending money on a new one.

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Posted 28th Nov 2013 at 18:10
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doon1988

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I replaced my icv today with a used one from somebody breaking and cleaned my old un to keep as a spare and so far so good it'. Ticking over and running alot smoother and so far no stalling despite me deliberately trying to make it. Didn't change the lambda as we want to get the car higher to see where the cable clips away so it's not hanging near exhaust
Posted 30th Nov 2013 at 17:13
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higgsy

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Done my icv today too, whipped it out gave it a good clean with some carb cleaner and all's good so far Smile I'll repost if the same starts happening .
Thanks for all the replies too
Posted 30th Nov 2013 at 17:31
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doon1988 wrote:
I replaced my icv today with a used one from somebody breaking and cleaned my old un to keep as a spare and so far so good it'. Ticking over and running alot smoother and so far no stalling despite me deliberately trying to make it. Didn't change the lambda as we want to get the car higher to see where the cable clips away so it's not hanging near exhaust


Glad to see my old ICV has gone too good use 😊

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Posted 30th Nov 2013 at 17:36
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pug_306 wrote:
doon1988 wrote:
I replaced my icv today with a used one from somebody breaking and cleaned my old un to keep as a spare and so far so good it'. Ticking over and running alot smoother and so far no stalling despite me deliberately trying to make it. Didn't change the lambda as we want to get the car higher to see where the cable clips away so it's not hanging near exhaust


Glad to see my old ICV has gone too good use 😊


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Posted 30th Nov 2013 at 18:34
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doon1988 wrote:
pug_306 wrote:
doon1988 wrote:
I replaced my icv today with a used one from somebody breaking and cleaned my old un to keep as a spare and so far so good it'. Ticking over and running alot smoother and so far no stalling despite me deliberately trying to make it. Didn't change the lambda as we want to get the car higher to see where the cable clips away so it's not hanging near exhaust


Glad to see my old ICV has gone too good use 😊


Ahh you Jenna j off eBay?


Yuuup :-) Glad its all sorted :-)

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Posted 30th Nov 2013 at 19:06
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Unfortunately I spoke too soon :'( Car stalled on me on my way to work this morning. Will see how it goes over my trip to Manchester later this week. Might need to change the Lambda also - but wanted to change one at a time to determine what part was at fault.
Posted 2nd Dec 2013 at 08:22
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doon1988 wrote:
Unfortunately I spoke too soon :'( Car stalled on me on my way to work this morning. Will see how it goes over my trip to Manchester later this week. Might need to change the Lambda also - but wanted to change one at a time to determine what part was at fault.


Does it stall when coming to a stand still, or when your still does it stall?

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Posted 2nd Dec 2013 at 10:25
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stalls whilst in the process of slowing down when dipping the clutch to change down a gear (usually from 3rd or 2nd) - the ICV appears to have helped in other areas it still feels like it drives a lot smoother and ever seems that gear change is smoother. Just hasn't solved this issue.

My car always idled fine in general but did have 1 or 2 occasions when waiting at lights the revs suddenly dropped and was about to stall and I had to keep revving to stop it but that was only twice some many months ago.
Posted 2nd Dec 2013 at 10:35
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doon1988

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Looks like I have a slight leak on my PAS also which I suppose could factor?

It was picked up as an advisory on an MOT years ago (about 4 years back) but never picked up since. My PAS fluid is still within Levels so it wouldn't appear to be a big leak as I've never personally topped it up so its not losing much fluids really.
Posted 2nd Dec 2013 at 10:53
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A few people on here have said that a dodgy PAS sensor can cause all sorts of electrical niggles but I'm not sure a slight PAS leak would upset the sensor?

Seems to me like you'd be best off testing sensors with a multimeter as if you just start replacing stuff until it goes away that could become very expensive, or perhaps try to borrow known good ones?

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Posted 2nd Dec 2013 at 11:39
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yeh never had any general issues with my steering though.... but you never know.. Ive only been replacing the small/ cheap things so far and getting the ICV and Lambda from a breaker to save me around 90% of the cost. Will get the Lambda tested/ changed after my trip to manchester.

Found a multimeter from maplins for £8:

http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/ut-30b-digital-compact-multimeter-n15by?utm_content=Multimeters&utm_medium=gcs_search&gclid=COX-i6W7kbsCFTEV7Aod6j4ALg&_$ja=cgid:7690035763|tsid:49900|cid:119050603|lid:44978789563|nw:{network}|crid:26685292123|rnd:{random}|dvc:{device}|adp:{adposition}&c=maplin&utm_source=gcs&utm_campaign=N15BY&

Reckon this would do the job?
Posted 2nd Dec 2013 at 11:47
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Does the speedo work all the time? If thats intermittent then the vss could be at fault

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Posted 2nd Dec 2013 at 12:51
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doon1988

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My speedo hardly ever works. works about 50% of the time - sometimes it wont work throught the whole of a journey - sometimes it will.

Sometimes it is intermittent throughout a journey.

Posted 2nd Dec 2013 at 13:14
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m306

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Doon- if its ok when the speedo works but stalls when it doesnt then its the vss, i had exactly the same issue

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Posted 2nd Dec 2013 at 15:18
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doon1988

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Cheers. Cant quite recall if it does it both times or not... But I suppose that doesnt rule out the VSS as it could be that the VSS is just starting to fail again at the time I dip the clutch and then boom. 2 faults at once.

Will look into getting a multimetre to test sensors as well as maybe looking for a VSS.

Cheers guys.
Posted 2nd Dec 2013 at 15:29
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Although if anybody comes across a part number or a link I would be grateful.... I can find a rear wheel speed sensor but nothing advertised as a vehicle speed sensor....
Posted 2nd Dec 2013 at 15:31
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Is this is by any chance?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BERLINGO-EXPERT-PEUGEOT-SAXO-106-206-306-406-806-RPM-VEHICAL-SPEED-SENSOR-VSS-N-/331070248417?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4d155315e1

The compatibility list, lists the S16 as well as 2.0 16v so im guessing this is it?
Posted 2nd Dec 2013 at 15:35
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Even if it doesnt fix the stalling it should fix your speedo issue and does need doing as no speedo is dangerous and also makes the vehicle mileage incorrect.

As said in pm id give someone like Miles or one of the many guys on here who know these cars inside out a shout and they should be able to help more.

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Posted 2nd Dec 2013 at 18:58
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Try unplugging your PAS sensor, it's the blue one that sits just behind the rad clear as day, worked on mine and I know it has worked for other people Smile

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Posted 11th Dec 2013 at 04:45
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