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mr west

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Post #76
O really. Thanks I will do when I have some parts together. No point till then really

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Posted 5th Aug 2013 at 15:59
russbez

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Post #77
took me a few days but that's me booked in with Mr Schofield for the end of the month Yes

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Posted 5th Aug 2013 at 16:10
jammapic

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Post #78
Cool.. What work? Just a tweak of the mapping on the supercharged motor?

Drop me a message with when your going and I'll fly across to say hello! (he's not far from me!)

JP

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Posted 5th Aug 2013 at 16:36
russbez

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Post #79
yes high boost custom map

i really wont be there very long mate, i am dropping the car off and then i am off pretty much straight away ill try and mind pm

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Posted 5th Aug 2013 at 16:55
stan_306gti6 Forum Admin

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Post #80
I'd be interested to see the result Russ. Yes

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Posted 5th Aug 2013 at 19:05
jammapic

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Post #81
OK, so backtrack a tad...

I talked about using staggered trumpets to move harmonics in the torque curve, and make for a smoother power band and more area under the curve.

But, they say the proof of the pudding is in the eating, so here it is.



Here, you can see two dyno plots overlaid. The one which makes peak power at slightly higher RPM is with the shorter trumpets, and the one with power at lower RPM are the longer trumpets.

You can see the shape of the curves are identical, but higher and lower RPM peak power. This is normal for longer and shorter trumpets. This is the key here.

When we have two of the trumpets long, and two short, we effectly find a "middle ground" in the curves. This is helpful as we fill the troughs with power, but we do also lose our peaks - hence the peak power is marginally lower.

What's important though, is area under the curve. Clearly, the more the better, and by filling the troughs we make the car smoother and more drivable.

Below is the outcome of the staggered trumpets:



We actually did find a little more power with some more ignition advance and leaning the mixture out a touch, but the shape of the graph remained largely the same.

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Posted 21st May 2014 at 20:08
Hawkesfire

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Post #82
Great guy really worth every hour of trying to track him down for an appointment and worth every pennie for the mapping as he got my SHB rallycross car flying with loads of power.

Marty

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Posted 7th Jun 2014 at 18:20
tom_g205

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Post #83
The staggered trumpets is an intresteting one. May I ask, how much are they staggered by and which ones as in 1 and 4 long 2 and 3 short?? And lengths??

Cheers Tom

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Posted 13th Jun 2014 at 13:44

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