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buzzbrightyear

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Why in this modern day(well actually 2006) can't car manufacturers fit brake pipes that last the life of a car and don't go rusty?

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Posted 3rd Jul 2013 at 17:28
phillipm

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£££'s

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Posted 3rd Jul 2013 at 17:29
buzzbrightyear

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but why don't they just add an extra £20 to the cars final price to cover the costs of fitting brake pipes that will still be safe in 10 years

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Posted 3rd Jul 2013 at 17:37
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£20 x 10 million cars = ....

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Posted 3rd Jul 2013 at 17:52
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= an extra £200 million revenue coming in from charging an extra £20 per car for safe lifelong brake pipes fitted which I doubt would even cost £20 per car extra over the s**tty rusty ones, if that's the case they profit from it.
If only life was so simple.

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Posted 3rd Jul 2013 at 18:03
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Mondeo issues?
Posted 3rd Jul 2013 at 18:18
gilesy

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Man-period issues I suspect
Posted 3rd Jul 2013 at 18:19
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Ford = RUST.

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Posted 3rd Jul 2013 at 18:22
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Post #9
roland rat wrote:
Mondeo issues?


Yes
the funny thing is it got its first advisory in September for slightly corroded brake pipes.
I thought they was just been picky which is why I take the family car to the dealer for testing as they are picky which is good for the requirements of this car, so I have left it thinking ill have a look at changing them just before next test is due.
well I was wrong.
I've still not looked properly as I'm about to fit 4 new shocks n springs and other bits over the weekend but Its coming from above the fuel tank as the fluid is running down the back of the tank but going on the advisorys and what I've read it's quite common and they will be rusty as f**k.

I think that's abismal for a car registered in January 2006.

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Posted 3rd Jul 2013 at 18:57
buzzbrightyear

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It hit 160k miles last night, bought it on 68k it's been very good up to it passing 155k miles, now it's all wobbly and bouncy.

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Posted 3rd Jul 2013 at 19:06
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its a fat 7 year old ford barge, they're not designed to last much longer.

apart from the engines, as they're pug.

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Posted 3rd Jul 2013 at 19:08
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the engine is great, ford definatly exceeded Peugeot in finishing it off.
It's not a pug engine it was a joint ford/Peugeot venture from what I'm told.
Fords version is set up much much better than the pug version.
Don't know about the newer ones though.

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Posted 3rd Jul 2013 at 19:20
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finishing it off with a s**t rusty heavy body that falls apart at 7 years, yeah great.

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Posted 3rd Jul 2013 at 19:19
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The body is solid, even the paint and stonechip protection under it has been applied really good.
I'll get some pics when I get under
It to prove it but i would say the chassis and rust protection on the chassis and floor has been done to an excellent level.

I've seen a few with rusty doors but that's due to the rain and water running down the insides, there's drain holes inside the door just below the interior door panel so it must have been designed to do this.
Mine has a bit of rust in places where the paint has been chipped off, like the wing near where the sideskirt ends.

But rusty brake pipes at this age is really bad I think

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Posted 3rd Jul 2013 at 19:25
buzzbrightyear

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Another s**t thing is the carpets have shrunk/ settled in over time and in a couple of places you can see the edge of the carpet.

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Posted 3rd Jul 2013 at 19:28
buzzbrightyear

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I'm going to have to redo them all the way through I think.

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Posted 3rd Jul 2013 at 19:32
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Sounds like a shed to be honest. Yes

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Posted 3rd Jul 2013 at 19:36
phillipm

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Give you a tenner for it.

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Posted 3rd Jul 2013 at 19:38
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stan_306gti6 wrote:
Sounds like a shed to be honest. Yes


it is at the moment, but as can be expected for the mileage, 160k on all factory fitted parts nearly, 100k of them miles has been done in the region with the worst roads in Britain.
It just needs some buzzbrightyear special treatment and it shall be good for another 160k or to infinity and beyond.
I think it's done great mechanically.
what p**ses me off is that brake pipes shouldn't corrode in 7-8 years.

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Posted 3rd Jul 2013 at 19:55
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buzzbrightyear wrote:

what p**ses me off is that brake pipes shouldn't corrode in 7-8 years.


Agreed, you would hope that the fundamental (and safety) aspects of the car would stay intact for a good ten years really. Yes

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Posted 3rd Jul 2013 at 19:55
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when you see the amount of stone chip and paint applied on the chassis it makes me wonder why they can't make the pipes last forever as well.

From what I've read it's very common

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Posted 3rd Jul 2013 at 19:58
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Just the reason I don't use my ford in the damp rain or anything other than the sun.

Ha ha, good old fords.


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Posted 3rd Jul 2013 at 21:37
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Sounds like a severe infestation of metal maggots. They always prefer to eat Ford metals. Look in the cavaties and you will see where they have set in. Oil seems to stop them spreading Thumbs up
Posted 5th Jul 2013 at 13:19
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monty-69 wrote:
Sounds like a severe infestation of metal maggots. They always prefer to eat Ford metals. Look in the cavaties and you will see where they have set in. Oil seems to stop them spreading Thumbs up


The cars fine, no rust anywhere except a bit of surface rust on a stone chip on the front wheel arch, it's the brake pipes that have corroded.
Ford technical say there fitted with kunifer/copper from factory

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Posted 5th Jul 2013 at 14:01
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so they wont be rusty then...

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