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are there any others than finding a dodgey mot garage?cheers jim
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 jimmyhackers
Seasoned Pro  Location: birmingham Registered: 14 Jun 2011 Posts: 1,111 Status: Offline |
cheers jim |
 Posted 21st Jun 2013 at 18:02
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24seven
Seasoned Pro  Location: Derby Registered: 05 Oct 2005 Posts: 6,221 Status: Offline |
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It would be easier to just pass it legitimately. ________________________________________ Ph1 306 GTi 6 | RX8 231 S1 | YBR 125 Cafe Racer | MT-03 660 |
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Posted 21st Jun 2013 at 18:08
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic  Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
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if it wont pass there's obviously a problem as they should pass if running properly...________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 21st Jun 2013 at 18:10
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smegal
Seasoned Pro  Location: Leeds Registered: 26 Dec 2005 Posts: 5,940 Status: Offline |
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welshpug! wrote: if it wont pass there's obviously a problem as they should pass if running properly... I know you're trying to say that a car doesn't need a cat, but that is bo***cks. Especially for older cars. If manufacturers could get away with not fitting a cat, they would. In response to Jimmy, it depends, do you have a de-cat? If so, just find a friendly tester or re fit the cat. If not, fix the problem. You can try your browns gas generator if you want, but I am doubtful. ________________________________________ Ex SC-6Now in a Megane R26 |
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Posted 21st Jun 2013 at 18:23
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coskev
Seasoned Pro  Location: Oswestry Registered: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,132 Status: Offline |
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No cat fitted is a fail now regardless of emissions, one of the new mot rules ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
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Posted 21st Jun 2013 at 18:26
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Niall
Seasoned Pro  Location: Epsom Registered: 06 Jun 2012 Posts: 1,941 Status: Offline |
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coskev wrote: No cat fitted is a fail now regardless of emissions, one of the new mot rules Always has been since 1992 as far as im aware. |
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Posted 21st Jun 2013 at 18:29
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coskev
Seasoned Pro Location: Oswestry Registered: 01 Nov 2009 Posts: 3,132 Status: Offline |
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Niall wrote: coskev wrote: No cat fitted is a fail now regardless of emissions, one of the new mot rules Always has been since 1992 as far as im aware. Nope, my rallye could nearly pass the cat test without a cat fitted, others have passed Must have cat fitted if originally had one came in last year  ________________________________________ Red GTB1756 powered Fabia VRS daily driver,LBSC Gti6 eater........Mac1 ZR R1 kit car build in progress. |
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Posted 21st Jun 2013 at 18:37
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Niall
Seasoned Pro Location: Epsom Registered: 06 Jun 2012 Posts: 1,941 Status: Offline |
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Ah ok. Maybe they were compulsory to be fitted from 92 but could still pass a mot without? Not that it matters. No chance of mine passing without one lol |
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Posted 21st Jun 2013 at 18:39
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rec bri
Regular  Location: newtownabbey Registered: 29 Nov 2009 Posts: 154 Status: Offline |
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I've had my car pass two years now with my decat fitted I just presume that they are unfamiliar with petrol 306's as every other 306 in northern Ireland is a dturbo, and I won't be correcting them. |
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Posted 21st Jun 2013 at 18:40
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dangti6
aka JKshooter  Location: Taunton, Somerset Registered: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 10,305 Status: Offline |
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smegal wrote: welshpug! wrote: if it wont pass there's obviously a problem as they should pass if running properly... I know you're trying to say that a car doesn't need a cat, but that is bo***cks. Especially for older cars. If manufacturers could get away with not fitting a cat, they would. In response to Jimmy, it depends, do you have a de-cat? If so, just find a friendly tester or re fit the cat. If not, fix the problem. You can try your browns gas generator if you want, but I am doubtful. You're possibly reading Mei's reply wrong. He's saying if you need to bodge it or find an iffy garage the there's a problem with the running of the vehicle. ________________________________________  |
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Posted 21st Jun 2013 at 18:42
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cully
Seasoned Pro  Location: Cullompton Registered: 12 Jun 2013 Posts: 1,093 Status: Offline |
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suprising what a beer in the pub buys !but an mot certificate for my 6 it don't |
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Posted 21st Jun 2013 at 19:12
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jimmyhackers
Seasoned Pro Location: birmingham Registered: 14 Jun 2011 Posts: 1,111 Status: Offline |
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im talking hypothetically here. im still waiting for my v5 to come back before i can get my black (was blue) gti back on the road.as wishy washy as my methods seem and are.... for some reason im pretty lucky with my guesses....and the cat looks.....fooked and i figure it will be the reason for the fail. ive fixed everything else for the mot, my toolbox is just lacking an emmision tester. being a dingle here im gonna ask the question ive just realised i should of asked instead......will the newer exhaust/cat on my phase 3 xsi (mot ran out today) fit on my phase 1 gti???? ________________________________________ the world is changed by people in sheds |
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Posted 22nd Jun 2013 at 01:20
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jimmyhackers
Seasoned Pro Location: birmingham Registered: 14 Jun 2011 Posts: 1,111 Status: Offline |
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and in response to the browns gas  i use my proper cells now for my welding rig. i can get around 22 litres of gas a minute now at around 25 amps. its all to do with adjuting the PWM to resonate with your cells natural frequency to get a dramatic increase in gas production. my 1.4 306 had a lot more engine bay room to play with. this was also with my old naff primative cells and no PWM getting around 2-3 litres a minute at about 25 amps. with no real inbuilt safety. after the mot tester blew up the plastic manifold top on my 1.4 after being an idiot with my car. i kept it out of future cars. but you never know.......its been like 4 years and ive learned some things.....like how to hide switches and not tell people about your crazy and possibly dangerous ideas etc. ________________________________________ the world is changed by people in sheds |
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Posted 22nd Jun 2013 at 01:31
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swiftyboi006
Seasoned Pro  Location: Maidenhead Registered: 12 Apr 2010 Posts: 2,110 Status: Offline |
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My blaze passed with a decat end of last year________________________________________ cherry p1.....SOLD (regreting this)blaze p2.....why did i buy this SOLD Black p3  |
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Posted 22nd Jun 2013 at 07:23
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owain
Seasoned Pro  Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
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The new rules (which came in April I believe) now state that regardless of emissions, removing a cat should now be a failure. Before it was law to have one from the factory, but would still pass an MOT if the emissions were okay, I don't believe they even had to check for a cat. If it's one of the rules which came into force (which I'm sure it was), they now have to check the cat is physically there - if it's not, fail. ________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 22nd Jun 2013 at 07:45
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
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As said before, one way is to hollow out a standard CAT, so it still looks like it's present even though it's acting as a decat. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 22nd Jun 2013 at 07:49
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owain
Seasoned Pro Location: Essex Registered: 20 May 2009 Posts: 9,185 Status: Offline |
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And just expect to get dry-raped by VOSA if they ever catch you ________________________________________ Membership expiring soon, get in contact on our new little forum project. |
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Posted 22nd Jun 2013 at 07:58
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dangti6
aka JKshooter Location: Taunton, Somerset Registered: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 10,305 Status: Offline |
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jimmyhackers wrote: and in response to the browns gas i use my proper cells now for my welding rig. i can get around 22 litres of gas a minute now at around 25 amps. its all to do with adjuting the PWM to resonate with your cells natural frequency to get a dramatic increase in gas production. my 1.4 306 had a lot more engine bay room to play with. this was also with my old naff primative cells and no PWM getting around 2-3 litres a minute at about 25 amps. with no real inbuilt safety. after the mot tester blew up the plastic manifold top on my 1.4 after being an idiot with my car. i kept it out of future cars. but you never know.......its been like 4 years and ive learned some things.....like how to hide switches and not tell people about your crazy and possibly dangerous ideas etc. Sorry? ________________________________________ |
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Posted 22nd Jun 2013 at 08:27
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cully
Seasoned Pro Location: Cullompton Registered: 12 Jun 2013 Posts: 1,093 Status: Offline |
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jimmyhackers wrote: and in response to the browns gas i use my proper cells now for my welding rig. i can get around 22 litres of gas a minute now at around 25 amps. its all to do with adjuting the PWM to resonate with your cells natural frequency to get a dramatic increase in gas production. my 1.4 306 had a lot more engine bay room to play with. this was also with my old naff primative cells and no PWM getting around 2-3 litres a minute at about 25 amps. with no real inbuilt safety. after the mot tester blew up the plastic manifold top on my 1.4 after being an idiot with my car. i kept it out of future cars. but you never know.......its been like 4 years and ive learned some things.....like how to hide switches and not tell people about your crazy and possibly dangerous ideas etc. i built one a few years ago used to run it on a 1.5 Nad i found it was taking to much power to produce a usable amount of gass had mine up to 4 ltrs/min @40amps with no PWM have you ever filled plastic bags and lit them? by hell i rattled the windows in our house estate not long after the police were driving round investigating  |
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Posted 22nd Jun 2013 at 08:37
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buzzbrightyear
Seasoned Pro  Location: hiding all receipts for car Registered: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11,894 Status: Offline |
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owain wrote: And just expect to get dry-raped by VOSA if they ever catch you There's going to be a lot of sore bums then. Should I keep a tub of vasoline in the glove box just incase? ________________________________________ andrew315rawson@live.co.ukMoonstone phase 7 gti6 My Project thread: http://www.306gti6.com/forum/showthread.php?id=119992&page=1 |
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Posted 22nd Jun 2013 at 09:48
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beez_neez_gt
Seasoned Pro  Location: @ de limit of adhesion ! Registered: 14 Oct 2008 Posts: 2,916 Status: Offline |
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I thought u always did...________________________________________ Pug fee`ver,Pick a Bogey, buy a Pug. Black 306 GTI 6 Standard, was 60k mileage, bargain!! Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 22nd Jun 2013 at 12:53
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vts_tibi
Seasoned Pro  Location: Nuneaton Registered: 27 Apr 2007 Posts: 1,194 Status: Offline |
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If the testers are arseholes, we simply weld the cat heatshields or the cat's outer skin over the decat pipe (so looks like a real cat, but it's a straight through pipe).And if it fails on the emissions we use E85 which brings them down under the fail level ________________________________________ VTSbest 60' : 2.272 best 1/8 ET : 9.375 @ 74.42mph best 1/4 ET: 14.603 @ 97.047mph Team Trackday™ |
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Posted 22nd Jun 2013 at 13:19
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stan_306gti6
Forum Admin Location: Kent Registered: 18 Jan 2004 Posts: 21,768 Status: Offline |
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vts_tibi wrote: If the testers are arseholes, we simply weld the cat heatshields or the cat's outer skin over the decat pipe (so looks like a real cat, but it's a straight through pipe). And if it fails on the emissions we use E85 which brings them down under the fail level Excellent idea, let's give the power to the people. ________________________________________ "Supercharged - 454.1bhp/317.5lb/ft"Peugeot 306 GTi-6 2000 (X), Moonstone |
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Posted 22nd Jun 2013 at 13:22
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smegal
Seasoned Pro Location: Leeds Registered: 26 Dec 2005 Posts: 5,940 Status: Offline |
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jimmyhackers wrote: and in response to the browns gas i use my proper cells now for my welding rig. i can get around 22 litres of gas a minute now at around 25 amps. its all to do with adjuting the PWM to resonate with your cells natural frequency to get a dramatic increase in gas production. my 1.4 306 had a lot more engine bay room to play with. this was also with my old naff primative cells and no PWM getting around 2-3 litres a minute at about 25 amps. with no real inbuilt safety. after the mot tester blew up the plastic manifold top on my 1.4 after being an idiot with my car. i kept it out of future cars. but you never know.......its been like 4 years and ive learned some things.....like how to hide switches and not tell people about your crazy and possibly dangerous ideas etc. Can I see some pics of your welding rig. ________________________________________ Ex SC-6Now in a Megane R26 |
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Posted 22nd Jun 2013 at 14:26
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weemangti
Junior User  Location: chippenham Registered: 02 Jul 2011 Posts: 96 Status: Offline |
Post #25
Or be a MOT tester and test your own car |
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Posted 22nd Jun 2013 at 14:52
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