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 JWP EFi
Turbo Legend!  Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
Post #1
my ecu is supposed to be mapped for a standard gti6 with 270 cams, i have temporarily wired it into my car just to make sure its working but now theres no spark. wiring is correct.Also i phoned OBR to ask about the interface needed for communicating with ecu and they want £700  Any ideas? i wasnt expecting for it to run my engine properly but i did expect it to do something, i'm getting fuel but no spark. Using a new xantia turbo coil pack and leads |
 Posted 21st May 2013 at 22:00
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic
 Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #2
Sell it and heed several warnings about efi  Buy dta, job done. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 21st May 2013 at 22:09
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
Post #3
Race technology sell interfaces for only £150 but only work with Euro 4,6 and 12. OBR said they would rent me one for £100 per week but tbh i want one to own |
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Posted 21st May 2013 at 22:13
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bigbadbowen
Seasoned Pro  Location: Winchester Registered: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 13,752 Status: Offline |
Post #4
Pretty sure you use a 106 Gti coil pack ? |
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Posted 21st May 2013 at 22:19
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
Post #5
106 gti coil is one big coil-on-plug unit is it not? Chap i bought this from said he used same coil as i am |
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Posted 21st May 2013 at 22:23
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bigbadbowen
Seasoned Pro Location: Winchester Registered: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 13,752 Status: Offline |
Post #6
4 post oil pack thing ? Sure it's a 106 jobbie ? |
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Posted 21st May 2013 at 22:32
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
Post #7
pretty sure your on about the 106 xsi/rallye coil which is same as what iv'e gotTU5J4 coil definately wont fit bud  |
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Posted 21st May 2013 at 22:35
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pete_rallye
Seasoned Pro  Location: Yorkshire Registered: 12 Dec 2002 Posts: 5,253 Status: Offline |
Post #8
Ever wish you'd listened to one of the few people on here that have experience with EFi stuff? Did I not say that the comms leads are extortionate? For the final time, save yourself a world of f**king about and buy a DTA. The last Euro1 I saw that was pre-mapped had the exact same issue, sparked once when engine was cranked, then never again. Caused 2 very experienced guys an awful lot of f**king about to get it to work, so much in fact, I gt bored and went home so I don't even know what caused it. Good luck. As I'm feeling kind, try giving the guys at TMSport a ring, and ask about Lee's BTCC 306 and how did they get it running. ________________________________________ Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 1Oulton Park in a BTCC 306 vid 2 Lap of the 'ring |
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Posted 21st May 2013 at 22:41
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic
Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
Post #9
quite right it wont bladdy fit, its like the J4r coilpack but not quite the same.8 valve XU will do the trick too, same as the 106 item other than the plug at a different angle. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 21st May 2013 at 22:42
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bigbadbowen
Seasoned Pro Location: Winchester Registered: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 13,752 Status: Offline |
Post #10
T99PUG wrote: pretty sure your on about the 106 xsi/rallye coil which is same as what iv'e got TU5J4 coil definately wont fit bud That loom was running in a 205 ? Sure you have got it wired correctly in a 306 ? |
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Posted 21st May 2013 at 22:44
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
Post #11
may just cut my losses here, my own fault for not doing relevant research before buying. thought it was a bargain, i already knew next to no one could map it but i have a contact who has experience with efi but can't do anything without the interface |
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Posted 21st May 2013 at 22:46
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
Post #12
bigbadbowen wrote: T99PUG wrote: pretty sure your on about the 106 xsi/rallye coil which is same as what iv'e got TU5J4 coil definately wont fit bud That loom was running in a 205 ? Sure you have got it wired correctly in a 306 ? 100% definately wired in properly, although guy had 2 different ecus for sale, starting to wonder if ive got the ecu that was setup for bodies although dont think that would make a difference to ignition side of things I have a feed at coil but nothing from ecu pins 25 and 26 whilst cranking. crank sensor is fine |
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Posted 21st May 2013 at 22:52
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bigbadbowen
Seasoned Pro Location: Winchester Registered: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 13,752 Status: Offline |
Post #13
Call colin at pug p tomorrow bud he may be able to help |
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Posted 21st May 2013 at 22:59
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
Post #14
already spoken to colin a week ago, seemed very helpful. but couldn't help re interface......fancy having a wee word with him for me seeing as he has 'contacts'? |
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Posted 21st May 2013 at 23:04
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bigbadbowen
Seasoned Pro Location: Winchester Registered: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 13,752 Status: Offline |
Post #15
Yup will have a chat with him for ya |
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Posted 21st May 2013 at 23:10
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
Post #16
bigbadbowen wrote: Yup will have a chat with him for ya Good man beer tokens always available for someone who helps |
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Posted 21st May 2013 at 23:13
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gti6girl
Seasoned Pro  Location: Dartford Registered: 19 Feb 2007 Posts: 2,692 Status: Offline |
Post #17
It's come straight off the 205 with touring car manifold. There is a single 106 coil pack with 4 leads. I would not sell you something different to what you was expecting?You should have 30amp to + on battery, 15amp to ign live, and an earth. air, water, coil and 4 injectors which can go on anyone you like Don't use the map lead |
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Posted 22nd May 2013 at 08:42
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
Post #18
thats exactly what ive done mate, also i wasnt suggesting for a minute that you were wrong |
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Posted 22nd May 2013 at 13:56
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
Post #19
SUCCESS! car now runs on EFi, doesnt run nice mind you but at least i know my wiring skills are up to the job, basically the cause of the lack of spark was dirty pins on the crank sensor plug, also i'm a step closer to obtaining the interface that i need. Happy days! |
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Posted 22nd May 2013 at 20:17
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gti6girl
Seasoned Pro Location: Dartford Registered: 19 Feb 2007 Posts: 2,692 Status: Offline |
Post #20
Once you've sorted it buddy everything will be fine. My brother in law has had euro1 on his bodied 6 for years now and has wanted for nothing |
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Posted 22nd May 2013 at 20:35
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
Post #21
once i get the interface i'll be laughing. Can't believe i f**ked about for hours and hours pulling my hair out when all it was was a dirty connection!Btw, see the yellow plug for the lambda? what lambda plugs straight up to it, and same for AUX plug? I had to run 2 temporary wires to the fuel pump, according to EFi's wiring diagram, pin 1 on aux socket is for the pump |
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Posted 22nd May 2013 at 20:43
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gti6girl
Seasoned Pro Location: Dartford Registered: 19 Feb 2007 Posts: 2,692 Status: Offline |
Post #22
The lambda plug is used for mapping and the aux plug has extras on it like launch control and shift light |
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Posted 22nd May 2013 at 21:47
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
Post #23
ok, after a quick google i'm guessing the innovate LC1 wide band will plug straight upthe pin on ecu for fuel pump traces back to P1 on aux plug |
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Posted 22nd May 2013 at 22:00
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