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looking for 200 bhp, i spoke to a specialist based in the south of england and was told this is very acheiveableAnyone care to comment?
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 JWP EFi
Turbo Legend!  Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
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 Posted 9th May 2013 at 21:20
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic
 Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
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"BTCC INLET" LOL.maybe. repost. ________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 9th May 2013 at 21:21
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
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I dont know much about N/A tuning but from what ive learned the 'BTCC' style inlet allows for more air flow. Apparantly the inlet was a cheat for the touring cars back in the day. |
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Posted 9th May 2013 at 21:27
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bigbadbowen
Seasoned Pro  Location: Winchester Registered: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 13,752 Status: Offline |
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welshpug! wrote: "BTCC INLET" LOL. maybe. repost. And that's funny because ? |
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Posted 9th May 2013 at 21:27
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JWP EFi
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bigbadbowen wrote: welshpug! wrote: "BTCC INLET" LOL. maybe. repost. And that's funny because ? i wondered exact same |
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Posted 9th May 2013 at 21:28
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bigbadbowen
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T99PUG wrote: I dont know much about N/A tuning but from what ive learned the 'BTCC' style inlet allows for more air flow. Apparantly the inlet was a cheat for the touring cars back in the day. Correct, but there is a very specific way to do this and it's not cheap  |
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Posted 9th May 2013 at 21:28
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
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care to enlighten me chris? |
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Posted 9th May 2013 at 21:29
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bigbadbowen
Seasoned Pro Location: Winchester Registered: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 13,752 Status: Offline |
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It's how it's opened up and then remove all the trumpets from inside then put back together. It's done so you would never know it had been.It costs about £300 to have done I think  |
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Posted 9th May 2013 at 21:33
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JWP EFi
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Post #9
daveyboy did this not too long ago, 300 quid sounds quite fair given the ammount of labour involved but i do happen to know an engineer that is keen to learn about this malarky |
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Posted 9th May 2013 at 21:35
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bigbadbowen
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I think it's cut open along the seam then excess metal removed from within. It's then carefully put back together so as not to be obvious it's been done |
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Posted 9th May 2013 at 21:39
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
Post #11
daveyboy's pics shows you all you need to know to know re how to do itso the btcc 306 really was cheating then??? |
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Posted 9th May 2013 at 21:41
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eddy_gti6
Seasoned Pro  Location: Durham Registered: 20 Oct 2008 Posts: 8,716 Status: Offline |
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Then you will want a different throttle body and air box  Also if your planning on pocketed pistons go for PT84's may aswell go all out Kent Cams Speak to pete_rallye, he has the yellow one below   ________________________________________ Clicky: [url =http://www.306gti6.com]click here[/url] remove the space between [url & = |
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Posted 9th May 2013 at 22:04
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bigbadbowen
Seasoned Pro Location: Winchester Registered: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 13,752 Status: Offline |
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T99PUG wrote: daveyboy's pics shows you all you need to know to know re how to do it so the btcc 306 really was cheating then??? They all bend the rules dude  |
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Posted 9th May 2013 at 22:08
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
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eddy - 84's wont work with original valve gear, not for long anywaybbb, there are a few cheats about... anyway, is it really worth fitting a touring style inlet? dont mind doing it as long as i can actually feel the gains |
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Posted 9th May 2013 at 22:18
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey  Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
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Ill say for a fact it doesn't work as a stand alone modification. It needs the modified or replacement pistons (preferably high comp) and decent cams to match.________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 9th May 2013 at 22:28
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
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Would your southern England specialist be Brett Simms by the way? And if you want a manifold I'd be happy to make another.________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 9th May 2013 at 22:30
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
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if i do this i will be pocketing my standard cast pistons to allow optimal timing of 81s, management wise i'm pretty much sorted. i have seen a coupe of people on here are a couple of ponies away from 200 brake so would like to think that with good ecu (and yes, proper mapping) i can crack my goal |
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Posted 9th May 2013 at 22:33
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
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daveyboy wrote: Would your southern England specialist be Brett Simms by the way? And if you want a manifold I'd be happy to make another. no. they specialise in pugs and carry out performance tuning  clues are there |
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Posted 9th May 2013 at 22:35
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welshpug!
Capt Pedantic
Location: Bigend, Wales. Registered: 27 Mar 2007 Posts: 25,817 Status: Offline |
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ahh that well known race and rally engine builder with many class wins and championships to their name...________________________________________ need a part number? get on here - http://public.servicebox.peugeot.comBring on the Trumpets. |
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Posted 9th May 2013 at 22:37
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
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welshpug! wrote: ahh that well known race and rally engine builder with many class wins and championships to their name... i know |
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Posted 9th May 2013 at 22:38
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
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Ah...I'll get my coat...________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 9th May 2013 at 22:46
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JWP EFi
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really, that bad?I'm assuming if mr Simms recommended touring inlet then it would be worth it, yes/no? |
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Posted 9th May 2013 at 22:49
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daveyboy
aka Jim Davey Location: Southampton Registered: 01 Oct 2007 Posts: 8,648 Status: Offline |
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Don't bother with PT 81s fit the 82s and get some Wossners under there. You'll need the extra compression to make high lift/long overlap cams work anyway, so do yourself a favour and don't skimp on the job.________________________________________ R H Davey Welding Supplies. I sell new and used welding equipment in the Hampshire area. I take on welding jobs in the evenings, ally casting repairs are one of my specialities but I can weld pretty much anything. PM me with your requirements.Some of my services: (See my for sale threads) Engine mount/chassis repair Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION Harness bars |
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Posted 9th May 2013 at 22:50
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JWP EFi
Turbo Legend! Location: edinburgh Registered: 07 Mar 2010 Posts: 2,163 Status: Offline |
Post #24
this summer's project is no longer car, its an enginetbf, ive not looked into 82's, what are approx expected gains with afore mentioned mod's?..i hate that word |
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Posted 9th May 2013 at 22:57
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bigbadbowen
Seasoned Pro Location: Winchester Registered: 21 Nov 2003 Posts: 13,752 Status: Offline |
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T99PUG wrote: this summer's project is no longer car, its an engine tbf, ive not looked into 82's, what are approx expected gains with afore mentioned mod's?..i hate that word Solid lifters for starters |
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Posted 9th May 2013 at 22:59
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