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mattgti6phase2

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Post #26
I like P1s but they just aren't as sexual as the curvey later models No

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Posted 7th Mar 2013 at 13:06
daveyboy

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Post #27
mattgti6phase2 wrote:
I like P1s but they just aren't as sexual as the curvey later models No


I think you'll find P1s look s**t.

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Posted 7th Mar 2013 at 13:34
mattgti6phase2

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Post #28
LOL I was trying to be polite.

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Posted 7th Mar 2013 at 13:43
jimmyrallye

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Post #29
mattgti6phase2 wrote:
Wow factor of having to wind ya window down? Dunno


Yep it all adds up the wow factor Smile

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Posted 7th Mar 2013 at 13:49
eliotrw

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Post #30
P1's look epic fact

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Posted 7th Mar 2013 at 13:55
coskev

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Post #31
How is the ph1 lighter than a Rallye?Dunno

Gen question, can't see myself how they can beThumbs up

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Posted 7th Mar 2013 at 17:19
gwyn rallye

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Post #32
coskev wrote:
How is the ph1 lighter than a Rallye?Dunno

Gen question, can't see myself how they can beThumbs up


Ive asked this question before but never got an answer! Can't see how it is lighter?

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Posted 7th Mar 2013 at 17:25
Chris28190

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Post #33
I think it's a load of rubbish.

I found a site saying a pahse 1 is roughly 1212kg. A Rallye is roughly 1163kg, the site may be wrong but it looks about right?

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Posted 7th Mar 2013 at 17:32
pugsy77

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Post #34
Stop whining the lot of you. PH1 6's are nice but, the Rallye's are iconic for those who know it. For those that don't jog on if you don't like it. It's not the end of the world.

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Posted 8th Mar 2013 at 08:58
eliotrw

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Post #35
There a thread where i worked it all out.
I cannot be arsed to go into it again.
A PH1 is lighter than a rallyee trust me.

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Posted 8th Mar 2013 at 09:15
eliotrw

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Post #36
eliotrw wrote:
There a thread where i worked it all out.
I cannot be arsed to go into it again.
A PH1 is lighter than a rallyee trust me.


As for how could it be,
For a start a Rallye which is a Phase 2
Is 53kg lighter than a Phase 3 GTi6
Why did peugeot compare the rallyes weight to a phase 3?
Because They both came out within about 2 months of each other and a Rallye was launched along side the "new" 306

So aside from not having all the bits that made a Phase 3 gti6 ever so slightly heavier than a Phase 2 gti-6
Its doesnt have all the Phase 2 extras a Rallyee has either.
While having many of the weight saving items the Rallyee had (i.e no passenger airbag)
A lot of them dont have sunroofs or AC either, So you can see it could add up.
Its also completly different externally
different lights front and rear
Different Panels all around

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Posted 8th Mar 2013 at 09:48
dangti6

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Post #37
eliotrw wrote:
There a thread where i worked it all out.
I cannot be arsed to go into it again.



eliotrw wrote:
As for how could it be,
For a start a Rallye which is a Phase 2
Is 53kg lighter than a Phase 3 GTi6
Why did peugeot compare the rallyes weight to a phase 3?
Because They both came out within about 2 months of each other and a Rallye was launched along side the "new" 306

So aside from not having all the bits that made a Phase 3 gti6 ever so slightly heavier than a Phase 2 gti-6
Its doesnt have all the Phase 2 extras a Rallyee has either.
While having many of the weight saving items the Rallyee had (i.e no passenger airbag)
A lot of them dont have sunroofs or AC either, So you can see it could add up.
Its also completly different externally
different lights front and rear
Different Panels all around


That lasted Cry

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  • Posted 8th Mar 2013 at 09:59
    eliotrw

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    Post #38
    I know lmao turns out its a quite friday morning at work.

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    Posted 8th Mar 2013 at 10:26
    dangti6

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    Post #39
    If you could go into detail with individual component weights it would be very useful. You've got an hour.

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  • Posted 8th Mar 2013 at 10:29
    phil b

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    Post #40
    Roll eyes

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    Posted 8th Mar 2013 at 11:35
    eliotrw

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    Post #41
    Lmao..

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    Posted 8th Mar 2013 at 12:02
    beez_neez_gt

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    Post #42
    Come on then, whats so special about the Rallye apart from the name ????

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    Posted 8th Mar 2013 at 13:11
    roland rat

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    Post #43
    GTI-6 for Show,Rallye for Pro Wink
    Posted 8th Mar 2013 at 13:17
    aaron6

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    Post #44
    The gay stickers and trim pattern? 53kg is not enough to warrent losing the ac and electric windows. Plus they have the ph2 spoilers and such. Its all about the phase 3 six. Wink

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    Posted 8th Mar 2013 at 13:25
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    Post #45
    aaron6 wrote:
    Its all about the phase 3 six. Wink


    This. Yes

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    Posted 8th Mar 2013 at 13:28
    ian7675

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    Post #46
    You have exclusivity with a Rallye, some people like that and pay extra for it. Then again there are also people who report abuse because of a simple debate. It takes all sorts to make a world go around.

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    Posted 8th Mar 2013 at 13:33
    coskev

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    Post #47
    eliotrw wrote:
    eliotrw wrote:
    There a thread where i worked it all out.
    I cannot be arsed to go into it again.
    A PH1 is lighter than a rallyee trust me.


    As for how could it be,
    For a start a Rallye which is a Phase 2
    Is 53kg lighter than a Phase 3 GTi6
    Why did peugeot compare the rallyes weight to a phase 3?
    Because They both came out within about 2 months of each other and a Rallye was launched along side the "new" 306

    So aside from not having all the bits that made a Phase 3 gti6 ever so slightly heavier than a Phase 2 gti-6
    Its doesnt have all the Phase 2 extras a Rallyee has either.
    While having many of the weight saving items the Rallyee had (i.e no passenger airbag)
    A lot of them dont have sunroofs or AC either, So you can see it could add up.
    Its also completly different externally
    different lights front and rear
    Different Panels all around


    LOL

    What a load of bulls**t!Yes

    Lets have some proper facts please to back up your claimThumbs up

    Different panels all round?LOL Different lights?LOL

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    Posted 8th Mar 2013 at 13:50
    Chris28190

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    Post #48
    roland rat wrote:
    GTI-6 for Show,Rallye for Pro Wink


    Thumbs up

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    Posted 8th Mar 2013 at 13:57
    daveyboy

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    Post #49
    53 kilo and some striking graphics are not to be sniffed at, you really notice the difference in weight in cars without much torque. I've had two Rallyes and a 6 and I know which I like more, even if the 6 was LBSC.

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    Engine mount/chassis repair
    Solid Beam Mounts BACK IN PRODUCTION
    Harness bars
    Posted 8th Mar 2013 at 14:14
    milkyb

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    Post #50
    I hate driving with passengers...as the car is always faster when you are on your own due to less weight...and then when someone jumps in so you can prove it, you no longer can cos they weight a billions kg's
    Posted 8th Mar 2013 at 14:18

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